[vicsireland] Re: Apple Lion Operating System!

  • From: Stuart Lawler <stuart.lawler@xxxxxxx>
  • To: "'vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:26:00 +0100

Hi Maree,

We have made a conscious decision at NCBI not to sell apple products, not 
because we don't' believe in them or see their value, but because we feel that 
they are easily acquired elsewhere, for example, on line, or in apple stores or 
retail outlets etc. The RNIB in the UK have taken a similar view.

We are however extremely interested in assisting where we can in the provision 
of training, and indeed many of us in NCBI are already using iPhones and apple 
computers.

The most obvious collaboration here would be with the many very knowledgeable 
people on this list, who have lots of expertise in the area, and we will work 
towards this.

Regards,

Stuart. 

-----Original Message-----
From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of maree grogan
Sent: 22 June 2011 09:38
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Apple Lion Operating System!

Hi all
 
The thing is as well that NCBI dont supply Mac's so they dont give training in 
the Voice Over as with Supernova and Jaws, but at least there is the VICS 
forum, thanks for you help again!
 
 
Maree

--- On Wed, 22/6/11, Eamonn X. O'Connor <EXOConnor@xxxxxxx> wrote:



        From: Eamonn X. O'Connor <EXOConnor@xxxxxxx>
        Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Apple Lion Operating System!
        To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Date: Wednesday, 22 June, 2011, 9:28
        
        
        Hi folks,
        
        I'd agree that some structured training on the Mac and IOS4 devices 
would
        be very helpful.
        
        I'm using a Mac  Mini running Snow leopard, andd Windows XP under 
Bootcamp.
        Of course, old habits die hard, and so i find myself resorting most
        frequently to Windows - shame on me!
        
        I really need to get   to know my Mac better.
        
        It's a wonder that none of the VECs are running basic Mac courses.
        
        Regards,
        
        Eamonn
        
        
        
        
                                                                                
          
                                                                                
          
                                                                                
          
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        Hi Maria,
        
        Along with Donals advice, you can also use the keyboard help of 
"Control,
        Option+ Letter K" to invoke keyboard help. When you start keyboard help
        using the keys I described, just press any combination of keys and voice
        over will tell you what a particular combination of keys does. When
        finished
        using keyboard help, press the "Escape key" to exit out of it. If you 
don't
        exit out of keyboard help then you will not be able to perform any 
useful
        function on the operating system.
        
        
        Paul.
        
        
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        Sent: 21 June 2011 17:26
        To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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        Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Apple Lion Operating System!
        
        Hi Marie,
        
        What voiceover commands are you having difficulty with?  The most useful
        command is to hold down the voiceover keys and press h twice.  Every 
single
        commmand is contained in a menu structure.
        
        Feel free to post questions here though, plenty of us use macs and are 
only
        too delighted to respond and show these boring windows users what a real
        computer and screenreader can do! :-)
        
        Cheers
        
        Dónal
        On 21 Jun 2011, at 09:48, maree grogan wrote:
        
        >
        >
        > --- On Sat, 11/6/11, kerie doyle <kerie.doyle1987@xxxxxxxxx 
<http://uk.mc278.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kerie.doyle1987@xxxxxxxxx> > 
wrote:
        >
        >
        > Hi All,
        >
        > Do you think it would be possible in the future if training days are
        > being held by Vics to organise some training on this for Apple Mac
        > Users or potential Apple Mac Users. We have been looking into it, and
        > there are a lot of Voice Over commands etc, and its a bit challenging
        > to figure it out,
        >
        > Thanks,
        >
        > Maree
        >
        >
        >
        > From: kerie doyle <kerie.doyle1987@xxxxxxxxx 
<http://uk.mc278.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kerie.doyle1987@xxxxxxxxx> >
        > Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Apple Lion Operating System!
        > To: "vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
<http://uk.mc278.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> " 
<vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
<http://uk.mc278.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >
        > Date: Saturday, 11 June, 2011, 18:00
        >
        >
        > Hi Paul and Donal
        > Donal it's cool your an apple developer, and paul, thanks for posting
        > that link i'm so excited for lion now.
        > Is anyone else concerned that they're not going to be selling lion on
        > disc or thumb drive? i mean, what if you need to reinstall for some
        > reason?
        > Just my thoughts  Sent from my iPhone
        >
        > On 10/06/2011, at 10:19 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick 
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        >
        >> Hi Paul,
        >>
        >> I'm in the Apple developer programme and I've seen and played with a
        beta
        version.  I'm sorry but part of the developer programme's t&cs is a
        non-disclosure agreement so I can't actually discuss the finer points.  
 It
        is nice though.  There are still bugs to be ironed out but on the whole,
        leaves windows for dead.  But then, most things do.
        >>
        >> Best,
        >>
        >> Dónal
        >> On 10 Jun 2011, at 21:40, (Lists) Paul Traynor wrote:
        >>
        >>> Hi All,
        >>>
        >>> The new Apple Lion operating system looks set to be something else.
        >>> Here's the link:
        >>>
        >>>
        >>> http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html#accessibility
        >>>
        >>> Paul.
        >>>
        >>>
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