So far Netflix is the only stream
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On 7 May 2015 10:22:53 "Spring Flower" <spring.flower@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
dvd's are slowly becoming less and less popular though aren't theybecause of
streaming. now that's something i haven't tried yet but are streamed movies
or whatever audio described i wonder
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Hill" <barry.hill3@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 12:23 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibility on Sky
> The reasonable adjustments can probably be demonstrated by the size and
> contrast adjustments I first mentioned for people with some usable sight,
> and the Sky app for anyone with a vi who has an iPhone or iPad. These
> tick the majority box and shows that they are trying. It's tough for us,
> but I doubt we'll get any help from the law.
>
> Size and contrast adjustment on the Sky digibox is of no use to me, but I
> applaud it nevertheless as it is helping some visually impaired people.
>
> Sky are doing for vi people, for free, more than Virgin,, and a lot more
> than other multi-media device manufacturers, such as those who make hi-fi
> and radios. DVD player manufacturers are lagging far behind too. If I
> want to watch a DVD on my TV, I need sighted assistance to find the audio
> described version, if there is one, then to get the thing playing.
> There's been nothing in the way of accessibility in VDB players since they
> came out.
>
> Sadly, we do have to face up to the fact that not everything is going to
> be accessible before the 2020 deadline set by 2020 Vision for access for
> all, but things are much better now than 20 years ago, so who knows how
> good the future will be.
>
> Cheers
>
> Barry
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Spring Flower
> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 8:35 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibility on Sky
>
> so, what are the reasonableadjustments i wonder
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry Hill" <barry.hill3@xxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 12:13 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibility on Sky
>
>
>> There's two problems with proving that they are discriminating. The
>> first
>> is that it is individuals who have to bring the case against Sky. Yes,
>> someone like the RNIB could do it on our behalf, but do they have the
>> incentive to risk wasting thousands if not millions on fighting a company
>> who have thousands if not millions in reserve to fight such cases. The
>> second problem is that they use the 'reasonable adjustment' vagary. They
>> can show that they are doing something to improve accessibility, so who
>> is
>> going to take them to court to fight for discrimination.
>>
>> The best thing us humble VI folk can do is to nag their customer
>> services.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Barry
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of Spring Flower
>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:21 PM
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibility on Sky
>>
>> i don't know how they get away with as under the anti discrimination act
>> surely they should be doing something and no, i don't mean the sky talker
>> either
>>
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>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "martin wilsher" <martinwilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:58 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibility on Sky
>>
>>
>>> Digital exclusion is a real problem, and tbh sky should have put their
>>> millions into development of an accessible box. I remember talking to
>>> them in 2003 about it. it's now 12 years on, and in sky box terms, we
>>> totally blind have got nowhere. You can exclude sky talker, as that's
>>> not
>>> viable now, and never was, as the box outstripped the capabilities of
>>> the
>>> blindie box attachment even before release. Sky should have invested in
>>> an accessible solution for their boxes from the ground up, and why on
>>> earth they didn't look into adapting the tvonix boxes I will never know,
>>> as the ground work had been done in that case. Sky must have known
>>> about
>>> the talking freeview box. Their attention to their blind, non-digital
>>> customers has been woeful tbh. I fear for the non-digital blind
>>> person's
>>> access to tv technology, they can only get further and further behind.
>>> An
>>> accessible box, from switch on is possible, and sky should be making all
>>> efforts to create one, as accessibility helps
>>> everyone, not just blind people.
>>>
>>> From martin.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>> Of Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: 30 April 2015 11:26
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibility on Sky
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wonder how this will help those viewers not online/those not using
>>> apps
>>> on Smartphones? (apparently about a third of all disabled people have
>>> never used the internet, according to Office for National Statistics
>>> figures. The proportion is about the same among people aged 65 to 74 and
>>> far fewer people over 75 have ever been online…that says nothing about
>>> those who have used the internet but struggle).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Clive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>> Of CJ &AA MAY
>>> Sent: 29 April 2015 23:21
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibility on Sky
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I didn’t know this.
>>>
>>> Alison
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
>>> Sent: 29 April 2015 21:25
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibility on Sky
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Alison.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sky Talker is no longer available I’m afraid, it was only ever
>>> compatible
>>> with the original Sky and Sky Plus boxes, and since they’ve moved to HD
>>> equipment now for which their is no compatible connection for the Sky
>>> Talker unit itself, Sky decided to sease production. The accessibility
>>> features are now being concentrated on their smartphone apps, on Android
>>> and iOS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All the best, Ibrahim.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: CJ &AA MAY <mailto:chrisalismay@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:02 PM
>>>
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessibility on Sky
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There is also Sky Talker of course, but the voice is so awful! But it is
>>> useful for providing a synopsis, indicating which channel you are on and
>>> whether that programme has audio descripton.
>>>
>>> Alison
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry Hill
>>> Sent: 28 April 2015 21:55
>>> To: 'Barry Hill'
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Accessibility on Sky
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sky have a new level of accessibility for their Sky box and on-screen
>>> menu’s.
>>> You can now increase contrast and font size.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Barry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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