Oh dear! What have I started?! Personally, I don't think that the iPhone or anything Apple is particularly bad in itself. I've used an ipod touch and I think it's well made. What bothers me is the "fanboy" attitudes of people who think that each and every product made by Apple is lovingly hand-crafted out of organic tofu in a Starbucks in California, rather than the enormous Chinese sweatshop which has been the subject of several news reports of high suicide rates and appalling conditions. Also, the attitudes on official Apple forums are unbelievable sometimes. My partner had problems with Snow Leopard after she upgraded and the disk became corrupt in a way that the standard tools could not repair, even from the boot disk. The solution from the Apple forums? Spend £80 on DiskWarrior. Fortunately, a bit of Googling found a simple low-level command line repair which did the job. One it was repaired, I noticed the disk was full (it was a rogue log file). So I did a find files, and wanted to sort by size. Something pretty basic. Again, I was told buy a £50 bit of software to enable this most basic of functions. Once again, googling showed me a simple command line alternative. They call it the Apple Tax - add £200 onto a lump of plastic and people will buy it. It's like people who buy Evian water. Which is why it says naive when you hold it up to a mirror. My point being that no-one was really keeping Apple on their toes, and at some point that was bound to come back and bite them. Anyway, off-topic rant over! ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq