Really? Huh, different senses of humour. Me and Jo found it funny, and a couple of other folks I forwarded it on to. Barry. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 4:23 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple's Steve Jobs admits 'we are not perfect' - Telegraph "Tedious at first?" That was tedious right the way through. Didn't make me laugh at all. Got to be one of the stupidest, non-funny things I've ever heard on YouTube! Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs Barbara Wilson M: 07917710779 T: 02887784046 E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype: creativeeyes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan" <digitaltoast@xxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 3:31 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple's Steve Jobs admits 'we are not perfect' - Telegraph > I'm going to post a link to a Youtube video about the iPhone. It's > currently one of Youtube's most watched videos, with 5 million views. > It had me nearly crying with laughter by the end. BUT before you > click, there's some swearing in it, so you've been warned if easily > offended. > The video is of two cute little cartoon woodland bears, one is meant > to be a phone salesman, the other an iphone fan girl who's come in to > buy a phone. > > It's only 3 minutes long, so bear with it (no pun intended) if it > seems tedious at first. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg > > On 17 July 2010 14:50, Barbara Wilson <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Very true. They are doing no more or less than they are required to do >> under consumer rights legislation, yet they are billing it as some big >> gesture from them. >> >> And how did such a fault get through quality control in the first place? >> >> Glad now I never felt moved to jump on the iPhone train. >> >> Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs >> Barbara Wilson >> M: 07917710779 >> T: 02887784046 >> E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Skype: creativeeyes >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Edward Green >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 2:18 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple's Steve Jobs admits 'we are not perfect' - >> Telegraph >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> What strikes me about this is that Apple are promising a free refund. >> Gosh, you can get a full refund on a materially faulty product, well I >> never. >> >> >> >> Ed >> >> >> >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >> Of Barry Toner >> Sent: 17 July 2010 14:15 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple's Steve Jobs admits 'we are not perfect' - >> Telegraph >> >> >> >> Wow, >> >> >> >> Steve is very good at PR and speaking out to the ignorant masses, I'll >> give him that. >> >> >> >> This is not an Apple Vs Microsoft thing. This is Apple messed-up, they >> came out with egg on their face and as my granny would have said, "If >> that fella fell down in a pile of pooh, he'd come-up covered with gold". >> >> >> >> If I'd have bought an I Phone 4 as I was planning to before the signal >> thing leaked I'd be sending it back. A free bumper case? For a on the top >> end a 600 quid phone? The less than 1% is so completely and obviously a >> PR move. Do you really think that only 1% of users who this problem? It's >> a design flaw that effected all handsets. Allot of people don't >> understand the problem, dont' hold the phone in the way that makes the >> anteni connections, there's so many factors. Ever see Fawlty Towers? That >> seen where Bazil asks everyone after we've heard them all bitching, how >> their food is? And they all say, "Oh it's wonderful, thank you and thank >> you for asking". >> >> >> >> This isn't a Microsoft Vs Apple comparison thing at all.... Their >> business markets are similar but also quite different. to make this >> sortive statement in either companies favour. BTW. I couldnt' care who >> comes out on-top MS or Apple. It just erks me to know end this mud >> slinging. >> >> >> >> I'll be waiting until Sept 30 or a few months after before an I Phone >> goes back on my list of must haves. I believe newer hardware or some such >> is going to be released then to fix the signal problem, without having to >> slap on a case whither you want one or not. >> >> >> >> Barry. >> >> >> >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >> Of Gordon Keen >> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 10:11 AM >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Apple's Steve Jobs admits 'we are not perfect' - >> Telegraph >> >> >> >> >> >> Shock! Horror! >> >> Remind me, did Microsoft ever make such a statement after any of their >> many cock ups? >> >> >> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7895612/Apples-Steve-Jobs-admits -we-are-not-perfect.html >> >> Apple's Steve Jobs admits 'we are not perfect' - Telegraph >> >> Steve Jobs, Apple's chief executive, admitted that the company was "not >> perfect" at a hastily convened press conference to address reported >> signal problems with its latest must-have gadget, the iPhone 4. >> >> He said that iPhone 4 users would be given a full refund if they were >> unhappy with the device, and that everyone who had bought the handset >> would be issued with a free case. >> >> Jobs said the problems had affected less than one per cent of iPhone >> users, but that Apple had been "working its butt off" to find a solution >> to the problem. >> >> "We're not perfect. We know that, you know that," said Jobs. "And phones >> aren't perfect either. But we want to make all of our users happy. If you >> don't know that about Apple, you don't know Apple. We love making our >> users happy." >> >> Apple has sold more than three million iPhone 4s since the device went on >> sale last month, but some iPhone 4 owners reported that their handset >> lost its signal when they held the device in their left hand, thereby >> covering one of the phone's antennae. >> >> Jobs said that just 0.5 per cent of all iPhone 4 users - around 15,000 >> people - had contacted Apple to complain about antenna problems. He also >> said that fewer people had returned iPhone 4 handsets than returned the >> iPhone 3GS, the handset Apple launched in 2009. >> >> He also said that many phones, including BlackBerrys, suffered a loss of >> signal when held in a similar way. >> >> "We love our users, and if we screw up, we pick ourselves up and we try >> harder," said Jobs. "When we succeed, they reward us by staying our >> users. We take this really personally, and have worked hard over the last >> 22 days trying to resolve this problem. I think we've gotten to the heart >> of the problem." >> >> Industry experts welcomed the announcement. >> >> "I think most people will be happy with a free case," said Carolina >> Milanesi, an analyst at Gartner. 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