Oh thanks Steve. I think I understand the Dolphin Virtual/area focus thing now. I've often wondered if Window-Eyes's use of the actual mouse pointer isn't of some help to sighted people working alongside blind users in helping work out what's happening on-screen. Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt > Sent: 12 March 2008 8:42AM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Dolphin v9 announced > > Hi Ray, > > Virtual Focus is just a more complicated version of browse mode in > Window-Eyes. Why do I say more complicated? Because you can have > virtual focus mode, the kind of equivalent to browse mode, then you > can have area virtual focus mode, which is more like Window-Eyes' > live use of the mouse, except they have this other "special" mode to > allow you to mouse around the screen, thus it is not live mouse, as > Window-Eyes is. Window-Eyes is the only screen reader that makes > real use of the "live" mouse as a sighted person may use it, and I > personally love this approach. JAWS is similar, except that you > have to hit the JAWS cursor to get it, which makes it not live. > > All the best > > Steve > > _____________________________________________ > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray's Home > Sent: Monday 10 March 2008 13:22 > To: Access-Uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Dolphin v9 announced > > Seems version 9 of HAL, Supernova etc is going to be quite an > upgrade. > > Highlights include much needed improvement in web page navigation, > Office 2007 ribbon navigation, improved Braille support, and, um, > scripting? Yes, Dolphin too. Sounds very similar to GW Micros > approach. > > Release date is reckoned to be 12 March. > > I'm not a Dolphin or HAL user, but they do seem often to feel > neglected on lists like this, so maybe this will make them feel a > bit better? > > No one's ever explained that virtual focus thing to me in HAL. > > More on vsersion 9 at: > > http://www.yourdolphin.com/newsitem.asp?pg=1&id=260 > > Cheers, > > From Ray > I can be contacted off-list at: > mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx >