[access-uk] Re: Headset guides blind people in cities

  • From: Paul Warner <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 22:39:31 +0000

I wouldn't be so pessimistic. The cost at the moment will be prohibitive for most authorities but the point of the research and development will be to implement a GPS/beacon system which is affordable.


The iBeacon technology has been around as an idea for only a few years and has not really been rolled out in the mass market. If and when the mainstream market finds a use for them, zillions of stick-on beacons will be manufactured and stuck everywhere. These beacons will be programmable and will be able to tell apps what they are attached to whenever your device comes in range. If they can get the unit cost of beacons down to pence rather than pounds, there should be no problem sticking them to lamp-posts, pedestrian crossings, street furniture, shop doors and to locations inside buildings as well.

I think it is the use of these beacons which is the really interesting thing about the Microsoft project - the GPSbased information handling is already present on Android and IOS. Bone conduction headphone technology is also not new.

I am very conscious of the fact that public expenditure is reducing markedly due to austerity but this challenge should provoke consideration of alternatives. How about making it a condition of planning permission that commercial establishments apply beacons to their entrance doors and any street furniture which they put out as well as to customer toilets, stairs, lifts and checkouts inside their establishments. The thing is, cheap, mass-produced technology usually begins with very expensive prototypes. I, for one, will be watching the development of beacon technology with great interest.


On 06/11/2014 21:27, john gallagher wrote:
hi there i just cannot see this as being a viable thing as now you can get such 
cheap gps apps on iphones and the android phones. the councils have no money at 
all and hear in leeds they are just chopping jobs and cutting back in every 
direction. the idea is good but i just cannot see it happening at all.

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Warner <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, 6 November 2014 9.17 pm
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Headset guides blind people in cities


It's good that the various bodies have come together because the R & D
phase should help a workable system to evolve with the possibility that
cheaper alternative components are implemented.  As Jackie pointed out,
public bodies in the UK will run a mile from spending a lot on such
research at the moment since the ultimate cost is unknown but if
Reading, Microsoft and the other bodies can develop a complete workable
product which can then be rolled out at lower unit cost, this makes it
more attractive for other authorities in the future.



On 06/11/2014 21.03, ,c;arol.,p;earson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Oh, I obviously missed that bit of the recording but guessed that was
the case.

Thanks.

Carol P

----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Warner"
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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 5.31 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Headset guides blind people in cities


0was The recorded article makes it clear that the system is at the
0was research and development stage and is not available as a product as
0was yet.  With much more work to do, there is also the possibility that
0was it never becomes an integrated product--this risk is particularly
0was high given that local authorities and others have to apply navigation
0was beacons everywhere.
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0was On 06/11/2014 17.05, ,c;arol.,p;earson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hmm!

Sounds interesting, particularly as I'm struggling with new routes
in Reading and the demo went almost past our door! <Smiles>

There was no mention as to whether this would ever be available to
the general everyday, hard pressed GDO and other blind folk trying
to get around!  Has anyone heard anything about the cost or whether
it will be released for any users in an everyday situation?

Carol P

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Brown"
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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 4.42 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Headset guides blind people in cities


Hi Barry

Yes, I heard a piece on Radio Ulster about this over breakfast this
morning.
What they didn't mention was the cost involved, both to GOODBA in
partnering
it, and the user.  It sounded interesting though I have to say.


Kind regards,

Jackie Brown
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of
Barry Hill
Sent: 06 November 2014 16.08
To: Barry Hill
Subject: [access-uk] Headset guides blind people in cities

It's a shame it only works with the Windows mobile, but this looks
pretty
good otherwise.

A headset that guides visually impaired people around cities has been
developed by Microsoft and charity Guide Dogs.
< http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/news/technology-29913637 >


Cheers

Barry



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