[access-uk] Re: ISO and audio
- From: BJ Edwards <bjthequill@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 22:49:49 +0000
Hi, Ok, thanks sounds good. Was considering VLC for ripping, but any
suggestions welcome. So, in conclusion, is there a format that would
work on both a media centre to play through an HDMI cable for
upscaling DVD/Blu-ray and 5.1 sound, which is also compatible with
Android - instead of using ISO, or having to save in two different
formats?
BJ
On 22/01/2013, Jonathan H <digitaltoast@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Don't forget that it's not whether it's mp4 or mkv or ISO or mov; they
> are all what is called "containers", all of which allow various types
> of files to be contained. mp4 usually contained an h.264 mp4 file, an
> ISO is just a way of wrapping up dvd information and usually contains
> dvd VOB files.
>
> Personally, I'd choose either mp4 or mkv, and stay well away from mov
> and definitely don't even think of wav as an audio format!
> It's complete insanity, and a bad idea for a hundred reasons! either
> use the original dolby digital ac3 or dts audio, or encode to aac
> which is what is usually the soundtrack for an mp4 file.
>
> Here's a snippet from a discussion of mp4 vs mkv which will probably
> serve to confuse even more!
>
> mp4 is a container just like mkv, the video inside is mp4 in the mp4
> (usually h.264) and every mkv that I see has mp4 (h.264) video inside
> it.
>
> Mkv can have a variety of video formats inside, but I always see h.264
> which is iOS compatible. Therefore I use subler, MKVtools, or iflicks
> to put the video and audio of the mkv into a mp4 container. It only
> takes 10 minute on a core2duo 2ghz Mac mini. there is no loss of
> quality.
>
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> Hi BJ.
>>
>> A lot of people tend to use MP4 it provides excellent image quality and
>> sound, and doesn't seem to compress too much. you could always try
>> experimenting and seeing which one is best for you? also depends what
>> programs you use to do the rip and what options you select. the higher
>> the
>> MBPS for example the better your quality's going to be.
>>
>> Mo.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22/01/2013 21:17, BJ Edwards wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok, so my music is currently either CD or 320kps MP3 which is the
>>> highest quality I can get without WAV.. My movies are either watched
>>> straight from the disk on very good headphones or watched on a HD TV
>>> with 5.1 DTS sound. So, if I want to watch the DVDs from a file, which
>>> would provide the best quality, MP4, MOV, FMV, AVI...? which
>>> compresses the least? I assume that ISO is the best, so I am seeking
>>> second best for sake of argument.
>>>
>>> Very many thanks again!
>>>
>>> BJ
>>>
>>> On 22/01/2013, Mobeen Iqbal<mobeeniqbal@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> hi andy. fair enough, i suppose i was just curious if quality does
>>>> improve as i can't really tell, but maybe as i said it depends on the
>>>> audio systems i'm using. i've never spent over the odds on one having
>>>> never had the cash to burn or seen the point.
>>>>
>>>> all the best,
>>>>
>>>> Mo.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 22/01/2013 21:00, ANDY COLLINS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mo -
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the 128 bit rate is used as a bench mark for putting music on
>>>>> portable devices, from the days when capacity was more of an issue -
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mobeen
>>>>> Iqbal"<mobeeniqbal@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To:<access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 8:50 PM
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ISO and audio
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Andy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, it may well be i'm not sure to be perfectly honest, cd rippers
>>>>>> i've used say that 128 K is the best quality to rip for cd's, but
>>>>>> they them selves could be wrong and when trying higher bitrates i
>>>>>> can't say i noticed a difference. then again i didn't have headphones
>>>>>> worth Ł200!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22/01/2013 20:44, ANDY COLLINS wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Mo -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought CD quality was considerably higher than 128, more like 256
>>>>>>> or even 320? I think stereo music radio only broadcasts in 128 -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mobeen Iqbal"
>>>>>>> <mobeeniqbal@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To:<access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 8:22 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ISO and audio
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi. Even when you convert to avi, the audio is generally encoded in
>>>>>>>> Ac3 format at 256 KBPS. 128KBPS is CD quality so you're already
>>>>>>>> talking HD quality ready for you to extract as MP3 at 256K or 320K
>>>>>>>> or whatever. personally i can't tell the difference beyond 128K,
>>>>>>>> maybe there's something wrong with me lol.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 22/01/2013 20:20, BJ Edwards wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi, I see. I assume compressed AVI files are of a similar quality
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> MP3 files. I was talking about uncompressed sound... WAV for
>>>>>>>>> example.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 22/01/2013, Mobeen Iqbal<mobeeniqbal@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi BJ.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> what do you mean by proper audio? DVD audio extractor can extract
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> MP3, it depends what kind of an audio purest you are. i mean,
>>>>>>>>>> obviously
>>>>>>>>>> Wav files could take up tons of space, you have to watch out that
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> don't run out of space on your hard drive. Also, when extracting
>>>>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>>>> from a dvd, you have to extract audio from all the titles or at
>>>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>>>> play them back to make sure you're extracting the english title.
>>>>>>>>>> otherwise you end up with other language titles as well. choices
>>>>>>>>>> choices, i'm sure you'll get there in the end eventually!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mo.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 22/01/2013 15:27, BJ Edwards wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So, in my eutopian fantasy I have all my movies on one lovely
>>>>>>>>>>> hard
>>>>>>>>>>> drive that I can plug into a media centre and watch on a decent
>>>>>>>>>>> system. But, can you get the audio track of your choice from an
>>>>>>>>>>> ISO
>>>>>>>>>>> file or DVD and save it as a file without loosing quality and
>>>>>>>>>>> listen
>>>>>>>>>>> on a portable device? sorry, rather rambling. I don't want MP3
>>>>>>>>>>> compression, I want "proper" audio. Can this be done?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BJ
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