[access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:11:15 -0000
Hi Terry,
I have no idea. It downloaded fine for me.
All the best
Steve
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terrcooper
Sent: Sunday 3 February 2008 08:06
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
Hi
Why does the audio only last for about five seconds? I can only see one
link for either downloading, so what am I doing wrong?
Terry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 12:53 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
> Well, I've heard all 68 minutes or so of the presentation on the KNFB
> embedded cell phone reader, and the listening is interesting for more
> than the obvious reasons. Before I say more, some quick jump to
> points might be good for those who cannot waite to get to the meat.
>
> 23 minutes in givbes you Ray Kurtzveil's intro and future gazing - and
> he's known as a futureologist. Things like image and object
> recognition improvements, including, he claims, faces.
>
> thirty minutes in or so, main presentation of what the present
> software does, and demos of it working on text, to tremendous rapture
> by the audience.
>
> 50 minutes: Question time, including cost of software and phone etc.
> and where Americans can buy.
>
> Speaking mostly from emory interesting points are the reader will work
> in a phone without a screen reader, and one that's not activated.
> Very good Screen enlargement is also there too for those with some
> sight,. Good help and keyboard guidance built-in, and presenter
> believes the reader software should be usable with very minimal
> training for many if not most people.
>
> The phone itself (Nokia n82) measures 4" x 2" x1" thick, and weighs in
> at 4 oz.in Its said to be very tacktile and the keys more
> identifiable than many. Sells for $500 or less in the US. Has built
> in GPS MP3 player, and high quality camera of course. I say all this
> to give some idea of what those fortunate enough to have the dosh will
> get in the phone itself.
>
> The software, to be much improved on, turns out to cost $1595.00 in
> the US. Now, here's where we come to that pricing issue again. that
> would equate to a straight UK conversionof less than ?800.00. So, why
> cannot we have it for less than ?100.00? Say ?950.00 for reading
> anywhere! What a sales point that could be for those who can push the
> poat out? AS opposed to rather more than that, seemingly.
>
> Not sure a UK audience or consumers are going to be quite so raptured
> and take the message to the country as they're encouaged to do in the
> US! The demo or presentation indeed had more the flavour of a
> revivalist meeting, with sounding horn, and loads of shrieking and
> applause. Maybe a sort of primary? Not without good reason!
>
> I only wish potential UK buyers had as much to shout about. AS it is
> the software, as I say, is going for $1595.00, so God knows what the
> 37 dealers there actually pay for it. Or what our sole distributer
> pays for it, come to that. I'll bet is less than $1595.00. Okay, so
> business is about profit; yes, I've got that message. When does
> profit turn to greed and extortion? Sorry folks, but yes, you can
> have a marvel of a device here, which can only get better. You'll pay
> much more dearly for it than folks across the Atlantic. Unlike them
> too, you won't be accessing a 3 per cent loan to help buy it. That in
> itself would be a good idea, but not sure why anyone should help
> bolster an already ludicrus profit margin.
>
> Those remarks aside, I do urge anyone who's not heard the launch of
> the KNFB cell phone reader to go on over to:
>
> http://www.blindbargains.com/redirect.php?redirect=2614
>
> And download or simply listen to the file.
>
> Cheers,
>
> From Ray
> I can be contacted off-list at:
> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Steve Nutt
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
>
>
> Hi Ray,
>
> Well James Everson of Sight And Sound is on this list, so I would be
> very
> interested in his comments on this. As a reseller of adaptive tech, I
> too
> feel this is overpricing, even allowing for overheads.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Ray's Home
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
>
> Paul, the 'over-inflated' UK price is more worthy of a post from me!
> (smile).
>
> Think the difference is three or four hundred quid! Presume there's
> no
> training being offered if you buy the software alone, as surely some
> will
> want to do. So, where exactly is the support and whatever in that?
> Sure
> many would like to pay rather less than a thousand quid for the
> software, if
> only they could!
>
> Wouldn't be so concerned if this was more obviously another leaning on
> Access to work provision, but we're talking enhancing of dailly living
> here.
> This makes it look very like extortion to me.
>
> I'd dearly like to see a defence of this, but as we often say here,
> I'm not
> holding my breath!
>
> Cheers,
>
> From Ray
> I can be contacted off-list at:
> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Paul Leake
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
>
>
> an interesting presentation and an intention to continue to develop
> the
> product for the future. Pity that the u k price seems over inflated
> though!
>
> Cheers
>
> Paul
>
> paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 5:51 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] More on KNFB reader for phones
>
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Take a look, or should I say a listen, to this file. You can
> download it
>> from:-
>>
>> http://www.blindbargains.com/redirect.php?redirect=2614
>>
>> All the best
>
>
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