It'll probably be tied to your phones seriel number liek Talks and Mobile Speak does.
How about anyone that's out there just buy the lot?Current exchange rates show that, $2,300 for the lot, phone, talks, software is about 500 quid cheaper than here.
Dj Paddy----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 3:09 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
George - I think those us interested in buying from the US, just want thesoftware, as it's about £300 cheaper. It appears however that each state hasit's own dealer, and therefore is unlikely they will sell overseas.What I can't find out is how the software will be licence to prevent piracy.Andy----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 1:00 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones |I suppose you could try, but with something of that value, I | sure as heck would want to make sure that it was fully | insured. Of course by doing that, it would have to have a | full value commercial shipping invoice with it, and so sure | as eggs are eggs, it would get snagged by Customs. | | Even if it was marked as "Articles for the Bind", you would | then need to deal with Customs to explain why. And at the | very least, there's a 99% chance you would have to pay Duty | & VAT on the telephone itself. | | Additionally, you may find as I do, that in addition to the | shipping cost, you have to pay Airline Handling and Customs | Clearance, likely to be around £25 each for those two items | alone. | | There's an interesting article from the Guardian at:- | http://tinyurl.com/3e4d8y | which warns people about the hidden costs of importing good | purchased from abroad. | | George. | | | -----Original Message----- | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sunil | Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 12:43 PM | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones | | Are there any restrictions on any of us in the UK buying the | software from | an American dealer? Or would it be worth it once you take | into account | shipping etc? | | -----Original Message----- | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of | Ray's Home | Sent: 03 February 2008 00:54 | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones | | Well, I've heard all 68 minutes or so of the presentation on | the KNFB | embedded cell phone reader, and the listening is interesting | for more | than the obvious reasons. Before I say more, some quick | jump to | points might be good for those who cannot waite to get to | the meat. | | 23 minutes in givbes you Ray Kurtzveil's intro and future | gazing - and | he's known as a futureologist. Things like image and object | recognition improvements, including, he claims, faces. | | thirty minutes in or so, main presentation of what the | present | software does, and demos of it working on text, to | tremendous rapture | by the audience. | | 50 minutes: Question time, including cost of software and | phone etc. | and where Americans can buy. | | Speaking mostly from emory interesting points are the reader | will work | in a phone without a screen reader, and one that's not | activated. | Very good Screen enlargement is also there too for those | with some | sight,. Good help and keyboard guidance built-in, and | presenter | believes the reader software should be usable with very | minimal | training for many if not most people. | | The phone itself (Nokia n82) measures 4" x 2" x1" thick, and | weighs in | at 4 oz.in Its said to be very tacktile and the keys more | identifiable than many. Sells for $500 or less in the US. | Has built | in GPS MP3 player, and high quality camera of course. I say | all this | to give some idea of what those fortunate enough to have the | dosh will | get in the phone itself. | | The software, to be much improved on, turns out to cost | $1595.00 in | the US. Now, here's where we come to that pricing issue | again. that | would equate to a straight UK conversionof less than | ?800.00. So, why | cannot we have it for less than ?100.00? Say ?950.00 for | reading | anywhere! What a sales point that could be for those who | can push the | poat out? AS opposed to rather more than that, seemingly. | | Not sure a UK audience or consumers are going to be quite so | raptured | and take the message to the country as they're encouaged to | do in the | US! The demo or presentation indeed had more the flavour of | a | revivalist meeting, with sounding horn, and loads of | shrieking and | applause. Maybe a sort of primary? Not without good | reason! | | I only wish potential UK buyers had as much to shout about. | AS it is | the software, as I say, is going for $1595.00, so God knows | what the | 37 dealers there actually pay for it. Or what our sole | distributer | pays for it, come to that. I'll bet is less than $1595.00. | Okay, so | business is about profit; yes, I've got that message. When | does | profit turn to greed and extortion? Sorry folks, but yes, | you can | have a marvel of a device here, which can only get better. | You'll pay | much more dearly for it than folks across the Atlantic. | Unlike them | too, you won't be accessing a 3 per cent loan to help buy | it. That in | itself would be a good idea, but not sure why anyone should | help | bolster an already ludicrus profit margin. | | Those remarks aside, I do urge anyone who's not heard the | launch of | the KNFB cell phone reader to go on over to: | | http://www.blindbargains.com/redirect.php?redirect=2614 | | And download or simply listen to the file. | | Cheers, | | From Ray | I can be contacted off-list at: | mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx | | | -----Original Message----- | Steve Nutt | Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones | | | Hi Ray, | | Well James Everson of Sight And Sound is on this list, so I | would be | very | interested in his comments on this. As a reseller of | adaptive tech, I | too | feel this is overpricing, even allowing for overheads. | | All the best | | Steve | | -----Original Message----- | Ray's Home | Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones | | Paul, the 'over-inflated' UK price is more worthy of a post | from me! | (smile). | | Think the difference is three or four hundred quid! Presume | there's | no | training being offered if you buy the software alone, as | surely some | will | want to do. So, where exactly is the support and whatever | in that? | Sure | many would like to pay rather less than a thousand quid for | the | software, if | only they could! | | Wouldn't be so concerned if this was more obviously another | leaning on | Access to work provision, but we're talking enhancing of | dailly living | here. | This makes it look very like extortion to me. | | I'd dearly like to see a defence of this, but as we often | say here, | I'm not | holding my breath! | | Cheers, | | From Ray | I can be contacted off-list at: | mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx | | | -----Original Message----- | Paul Leake | Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones | | | an interesting presentation and an intention to continue to | develop | the | product for the future. Pity that the u k price seems over | inflated | though! | | Cheers | | Paul | | paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 5:51 PM | Subject: [access-uk] More on KNFB reader for phones | | | > Hi folks, | > | > Take a look, or should I say a listen, to this file. 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