Hi Colin, Yes, better than nowt, but that's hardly equitable. My point is that these days you don't have to be Jamie Oliver to bake it properly. We should have more than just crumbs from the master's table. Best, Clive -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Colin Howard Sent: 06 November 2014 13:48 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: More to accesibility than a synthetic voice (was telephone landlines) Greetings, Adding to Steve's Olympus discussion, agreed, problem with Olympus is same as for the Pure Sonis. The speech was "enabled" by introduction of individual files containing words, called up as necessary when the function is activated. Yes, fine so far as it goes, but not what I term proper speech. At least with screen-readers such as NVDA and their like, speech gives a more or less accurate response to changes. Olympus and Pure could not intelligently interpret displays for stations, file names for the Olympus and the like. Half-baked? Um! better than nout, but needs much improvement. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq