[access-uk] Re: More to accesibility than a synthetic voice (was telephone landlines)

  • From: <Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 13:51:37 +0000

Hello Vonja,

I believe more and more banks are introducing this feature over here. I haven't 
heard whether or not they will be introducing it in cashpoints outside shops 
like Tesco, or whether there will be talking Automated Cash Machines at the 
banks only. I haven't come across them outside shops yet, so does anyone else 
know how widely they are being rolled out?

Best,
Clive



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Vanja Sudar
Sent: 06 November 2014 13:25
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More to accesibility than a synthetic voice (was 
telephone landlines)

Having spent a lot of time in the USA recently I would say surprisingly banks 
got it right there, most certainly in new York city anyway. Pretty much all the 
cash points have ability to produce audio feedback when headfones are plugged 
in. Even small cash points such as those in shops have this option so that's 
quite impressed with that. I know couple of banks in the uk but it seems to be 
the norm over there.

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On 6 November 2014 07:56:55 <Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Jackie,
>
> Perhaps we should be talking less about accessibility, more about the 
> business case for full inclusivity. The technology to make devices 
> work for people with different requirements is no longer prohibitively 
> expensive. So I cannot understand the reason why manufacturers are not 
> maximising their market by designing their products to the principle 
> that if it doesn't work properly for all the people we'd like to sell 
> it to, it doesn't work properly. As we have an aging population, and 
> people so often acquire impairments as they get older, there will 
> surely be a lot more potential customers needing this stuff to work properly 
> for them in the future.
>
> By The Way - audio-description provision is another half-baked idea 
> that needs to go back into the oven. I bet we could all think of 
> others, but I'd be interested to know who's getting it right.
>
> Best,
> Clive
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Jackie Brown
> Sent: 06 November 2014 12:37
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: More to accesibility than a synthetic voice 
> (was telephone landlines)
>
> Hi Clive
>
> Exactly, my experience this week with the Olympus DM7 is just that, 
> half-baked!
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jackie Brown
> Emails: jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
> thebrownsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Twitter: @thebrownsplace
> Skype: Thejackmate
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: 06 November 2014 12:20
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] More to accesibility than a synthetic voice (was 
> telephone landlines)
>
> Hello all,
>
> I wonder if the problem with partial accessibility is another instance 
> of what I think happened with Blackberry and the early models of 
> Kindle. There seems to be a naïve assumption on the part of some 
> companies that if a device speaks at all, it will be fully accessible 
> to blind people. So you get spoken caller id but no spoken menu; could 
> read a book on the old Kindle, but try using the silent keyboard; 
> Blackberry had speech output on a useless touch screen device, so at 
> least you were told when you'd accidentally fouled up settings you 
> didn't intend to tamper with. Perhaps developers should be asking 
> "does it work well? And is it versatile", instead of adding in 
> half-baked accessibility features. In short, does it work like apple?
>
> Best,
> Clive
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Mobeen Iqbal
> Sent: 06 November 2014 12:06
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Land Line Telephones
>
> hi pele. yep that's the one. yes, i agree it is a real shame!
>
> all the best,
>
> Mo.
>
> On 06/11/2014 11:57, Pele West wrote:
> > Hi Mo
> >
> > Thanks. We do have a cordless phone with 3 handsets connected as 
> > well, but thanks for the information about the Panasonic system. Is 
> > this the one that speaks the name of the person calling if they are 
> > in the phone's address book? It is a shame it does not speak all the 
> > menus and things.
> >
> > Pele
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