[access-uk] Re: More to accesibility than a synthetic voice (was telephone landlines)

  • From: Vanja Sudar <vanja@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 08:25:14 -0500

Having spent a lot of time in the USA recently I would say surprisingly banks got it right there, most certainly in new York city anyway. Pretty much all the cash points have ability to produce audio feedback when headfones are plugged in. Even small cash points such as those in shops have this option so that's quite impressed with that. I know couple of banks in the uk but it seems to be the norm over there.


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On 6 November 2014 07:56:55 <Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Jackie,

Perhaps we should be talking less about accessibility, more about the business case for full inclusivity. The technology to make devices work for people with different requirements is no longer prohibitively expensive. So I cannot understand the reason why manufacturers are not maximising their market by designing their products to the principle that if it doesn't work properly for all the people we'd like to sell it to, it doesn't work properly. As we have an aging population, and people so often acquire impairments as they get older, there will surely be a lot more potential customers needing this stuff to work properly for them in the future.

By The Way - audio-description provision is another half-baked idea that needs to go back into the oven. I bet we could all think of others, but I'd be interested to know who's getting it right.

Best,
Clive



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Brown
Sent: 06 November 2014 12:37
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More to accesibility than a synthetic voice (was telephone landlines)

Hi Clive

Exactly, my experience this week with the Olympus DM7 is just that, half-baked!


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Jackie Brown
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 06 November 2014 12:20
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] More to accesibility than a synthetic voice (was telephone landlines)

Hello all,

I wonder if the problem with partial accessibility is another instance of what I think happened with Blackberry and the early models of Kindle. There seems to be a naïve assumption on the part of some companies that if a device speaks at all, it will be fully accessible to blind people. So you get spoken caller id but no spoken menu; could read a book on the old Kindle, but try using the silent keyboard; Blackberry had speech output on a useless touch screen device, so at least you were told when you'd accidentally fouled up settings you didn't intend to tamper with. Perhaps developers should be asking "does it work well? And is it versatile", instead of adding in half-baked accessibility features. In short, does it work like apple?

Best,
Clive



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mobeen Iqbal
Sent: 06 November 2014 12:06
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Land Line Telephones

hi pele. yep that's the one. yes, i agree it is a real shame!

all the best,

Mo.

On 06/11/2014 11:57, Pele West wrote:
> Hi Mo
>
> Thanks. We do have a cordless phone with 3 handsets connected as well,
> but thanks for the information about the Panasonic system. Is this the
> one that speaks the name of the person calling if they are in the
> phone's address book? It is a shame it does not speak all the menus
> and things.
>
> Pele
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