[access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
- From: Saqib Hussain <saqibh23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 21:40:58 +0100
I'm using an iPhone 4S and it more than meets my needs. I have apps to
assist me in my daily travel and I probably have 5 GPS apps at my
disposal. I can type with no issues and with the new Fleksi app! Life
got more easier. Dictation features and apps are available if I need
to fire off a quick reply to a message. I really don't see what this
new gadget has to offer me. Mo's points are very valid regardless of
my lack of appreciation for the Android platform. I haven't had the
experience of the latest Android OS but have been disappointed by
Android before.
On 14/07/2012, Keith Barrett <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The other problem with all this is that with the market changing, how
> long will this product work before you need to spend more money on
> upgrades or, god forbid, an s.m.a.
>
> This will win one prize though, it will be the most expensive android
> app you can buy, congratulations.
>
>
>
> On 14/07/2012 15:49, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:
>> Ł300? or Ł150 or what ever it is for a download? have they actually
>> written any applications? the article doesn't say if we can download a
>> demo of the programs available. What if you don't like it once you've
>> bought it? with mobile accessibility, its obvious what the app does and
>> you can try it out. And its cheaper. fair enough people have to make
>> some money, but Android is open source and most apps are free and the
>> ones that aren't are low cost and affordable. I thought that, for that
>> price we'd have something more than an app that tells us bus times. And
>> as this phone is marketed at everyone, why don't they provide an overlay
>> if its exclusively touch screen? Maybe they're hoping that we all use
>> our handset of choice and by their software but android is totally
>> accessible as it is! there are plenty of apps to choose from. I have one
>> my self, if 1 app doesn't work for me i find another one or contact the
>> developer and most times they can make it accessible. what's special
>> about this software? in business terms, the unique selling point? Yes
>> they provide OCR functions, but you could use google goggles for that to
>> an extent. and how good is the OCR? again noone can comment because a
>> trial isn't available! It will have to ad a lot of bells and wistles to
>> an already accessible product to warrant me spending any more money than
>> i already have on mobile accessibility etc. If they have indeed written
>> a screen reader from scratch, we've already got a choice of 3 screen
>> readers spiel, google talkback, and mobile accessibility. From the
>> following page, it seems that many functions may already have an
>> accessible app available free of charge. These guys are charging to set
>> the phone up for you remotely, provide access to specific apps they've
>> either written or gotten from the android market, and provide a simpler
>> home screen as well as standard functions, calling, texting contacts
>> etc. Remote control of a handset could be seen as a privacy risk for
>> some. This product aims to have a 5 button approach to simplify things,
>> where are the buttons? the phones offered seem to be mainly touch
>> screen, i personally find it slower to use a touch screen as many people
>> i know do. if i can make a call to a contact from the stock android app
>> by holding my finger over the contact, why would i need this app? Yes we
>> need phones set up for us, but honestly its not hard at all! there are
>> plenty of online guides and sometimes you can even have the people in
>> the shop set it up for you. I bought my android handset for Ł120, i had
>> someone sighted go in to settings and tick accessibility and after that
>> it was plain sailing. Here is the sight and sound link for anyone that's
>> interested, but this reminds me strongly of the owasys handset or how
>> ever you spell it. I'm very glad i didn't buy it when it was released. i
>> crashed it the first time i used it just by flicking through ringtones
>> too fast! luckily symbian handsets came a long soon after and it was a
>> pleasure to switch. the link is:
>>
>> http://www.sightandsound.co.uk/shop/products.php?product=GEORGIE
>>
>> The product makes no mention of providing functionality to do the
>> following:
>> changing phone settings other than WiFi.
>> email functionality.
>> browsing the android market.
>> access to a web browser.
>> an alarm clock or clock of some kind.
>> a calendar.
>>
>> You may as well buy mobile accessibility, download google maps, download
>> colour recogniser, perhaps download google goggles and have done with
>> it. I've been setting up handsets for people for years and haven't
>> charged anything for doing it if its a quick job which most of the time
>> it is.
>>
>> Mo.
>>
>>
>> On 14/07/2012 15:24, Eleanor Burke wrote:
>>> Maybe your friends at Sight & sound, are't they marketing it?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns"
>>> <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:10 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Eleanor
>>>>
>>>> Ah, yes, the Owasys! I do remember it. I have to say it's easily
>>>> forgetable
>>>> too, a complete rip-off in terms of value for money.
>>>>
>>>> I was just curious about the new handset though as, no matter how
>>>> much voice
>>>> assistance there is, you are still using a touch-screen from what the
>>>> article says, and this is the stumbling block for those with dexterity
>>>> problems, and for those who simply don't want to use a touch-screen.
>>>> I was
>>>> really wondering if anyone had come across it so they could say. If
>>>> it has
>>>> a place that bridges the gap for some folk, then fine, but it just
>>>> made me
>>>> wonder why.
>>>>
>>>> I am sure that if anyone is visiting Sight Village, it will be on
>>>> display at
>>>> least. Perhaps someone could report back?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>> Eleanor Burke
>>>> Sent: 14 July 2012 14:59
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>>
>>>> Well Jackie I don't know any more than yourself but do you recall that
>>>> dreaded Oasis or something or other from RNIB. I nearly bought it as
>>>> my
>>>> first phone with speech, thank Heavens I didn't. Maybe someone has
>>>> decided
>>>> that blind people again need something basic. I have to say I love the
>>>> Symbian Nokia phones.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 2:52 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Forgive me, but having read the article via the link Tom posted, is
>>>>> this not reinventing the wheel, or have I missed something? Why have
>>>>> a Smartphone touch-screen mobile for blind and visually impaired
>>>>> people with specific apps when you can already access either Apple or
>>>>> Android handsets?
>>>>> Hoping
>>>>> someone might clarify the point of having such a phone in addition to
>>>>> what is already out there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Tom Lorimer
>>>>> Sent: 14 July 2012 11:43
>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>
>>>>> Try this link:
>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18818279
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: jeff flint <mailto:jeffflint15@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:54 AM
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>>>
>>>>> My brother in Australia heard a report from England that a new mobile
>>>>> phone, with lots of bells an whistles, was launched last Thursday in
>>>>> London.
>>>>> Does anybody know anything about it?
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>
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