[access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
- From: Saqib Hussain <saqibh23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:59:22 +0100
I will be attending Sight Village to see scan to text solutions. Now
that the latest version of the Android OS will be on show! I am
looking forward to giving it a test drive. I just wish Android would
unify the OS so it becomes readily available on all current Android
supported devices. There is still Android 2.2 being sold on the
current market. I once heard that Android were going to unify their OS
after the 4.0 ICS release but that never happened.
On 15/07/2012, Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> wow! what's your phone running in the background? I removed the
> manufacturer bloteware on my phone and it seems to have increased
> battery life somewhat. I also disable GPS when not in use. Install the
> 2X battery app from the market, it may help you when the phone isn't in
> use. Finally, you can buy a pretty decent charger from amazon, search
> for the veho 5000 MA USB charger only costs around £20 from amazon
> enough to charge your phone 3 times or more depending on the capacity of
> your battery.
>
> all the best,
>
> Mo.
>
>
> On 15/07/2012 11:16, Steve Nutt wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Wow, you must have a battery hog of an Android phone. Mine lasts a day
>> of
>> heavy usage. Mine's the Nexus.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>> william lomas
>> Sent: 15 July 2012 10:50
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>
>> however jellybean is only really worth it for those with a nexus i find
>> the
>> ICS implementation clunky at best and find nokia and iphone much
>> smoother.
>> it willt take months! for sony to release the jellybean update, whereas
>> the
>> nexus will receive it instantatinously
>> so what's the point?
>> battery life on an android for me at least is only a couple of hours
>> usage
>>
>>> Hi Mo,
>>>
>>> This is an excellent analysis, and pretty much what I said on my
>>> podcast.
>>>
>>> Android is even more accessible with the advent of Jellybean.
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Steve
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>>> Mobeen Iqbal
>>> Sent: 14 July 2012 15:48
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>
>>> £300? or £150 or what ever it is for a download? have they actually
>>> written any applications? the article doesn't say if we can download a
>>> demo of the programs available. What if you don't like it once you've
>>> bought it? with mobile accessibility, its obvious what the app does and
>>> you can try it out. And its cheaper. fair enough people have to make
>>> some money, but Android is open source and most apps are free and the
>>> ones that aren't are low cost and affordable. I thought that, for that
>>> price we'd have something more than an app that tells us bus times. And
>>> as this phone is marketed at everyone, why don't they provide an overlay
>>> if its exclusively touch screen? Maybe they're hoping that we all use
>>> our handset of choice and by their software but android is totally
>>> accessible as it is! there are plenty of apps to choose from. I have one
>>> my self, if 1 app doesn't work for me i find another one or contact the
>>> developer and most times they can make it accessible. what's special
>>> about this software? in business terms, the unique selling point? Yes
>>> they provide OCR functions, but you could use google goggles for that to
>>> an extent. and how good is the OCR? again noone can comment because a
>>> trial isn't available! It will have to ad a lot of bells and wistles to
>>> an already accessible product to warrant me spending any more money than
>>> i already have on mobile accessibility etc. If they have indeed written
>>> a screen reader from scratch, we've already got a choice of 3 screen
>>> readers spiel, google talkback, and mobile accessibility. From the
>>> following page, it seems that many functions may already have an
>>> accessible app available free of charge. These guys are charging to set
>>> the phone up for you remotely, provide access to specific apps they've
>>> either written or gotten from the android market, and provide a simpler
>>> home screen as well as standard functions, calling, texting contacts
>>> etc. Remote control of a handset could be seen as a privacy risk for
>>> some. This product aims to have a 5 button approach to simplify things,
>>> where are the buttons? the phones offered seem to be mainly touch
>>> screen, i personally find it slower to use a touch screen as many people
>>> i know do. if i can make a call to a contact from the stock android app
>>> by holding my finger over the contact, why would i need this app? Yes we
>>> need phones set up for us, but honestly its not hard at all! there are
>>> plenty of online guides and sometimes you can even have the people in
>>> the shop set it up for you. I bought my android handset for £120, i had
>>> someone sighted go in to settings and tick accessibility and after that
>>> it was plain sailing. Here is the sight and sound link for anyone that's
>>> interested, but this reminds me strongly of the owasys handset or how
>>> ever you spell it. I'm very glad i didn't buy it when it was released. i
>>> crashed it the first time i used it just by flicking through ringtones
>>> too fast! luckily symbian handsets came a long soon after and it was a
>>> pleasure to switch. the link is:
>>>
>>> http://www.sightandsound.co.uk/shop/products.php?product=GEORGIE
>>>
>>> The product makes no mention of providing functionality to do the
>> following:
>>> changing phone settings other than WiFi.
>>> email functionality.
>>> browsing the android market.
>>> access to a web browser.
>>> an alarm clock or clock of some kind.
>>> a calendar.
>>>
>>> You may as well buy mobile accessibility, download google maps, download
>>> colour recogniser, perhaps download google goggles and have done with
>>> it. I've been setting up handsets for people for years and haven't
>>> charged anything for doing it if its a quick job which most of the time
>>> it is.
>>>
>>> Mo.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14/07/2012 15:24, Eleanor Burke wrote:
>>>> Maybe your friends at Sight& sound, are't they marketing it?
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns"
>>>> <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To:<access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:10 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Eleanor
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah, yes, the Owasys! I do remember it. I have to say it's easily
>>>>> forgetable
>>>>> too, a complete rip-off in terms of value for money.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was just curious about the new handset though as, no matter how
>>>>> much voice
>>>>> assistance there is, you are still using a touch-screen from what the
>>>>> article says, and this is the stumbling block for those with dexterity
>>>>> problems, and for those who simply don't want to use a touch-screen.
>>>>> I was
>>>>> really wondering if anyone had come across it so they could say. If
>>>>> it has
>>>>> a place that bridges the gap for some folk, then fine, but it just
>>>>> made me
>>>>> wonder why.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am sure that if anyone is visiting Sight Village, it will be on
>>>>> display at
>>>>> least. Perhaps someone could report back?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> Eleanor Burke
>>>>> Sent: 14 July 2012 14:59
>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>>>
>>>>> Well Jackie I don't know any more than yourself but do you recall that
>>>>> dreaded Oasis or something or other from RNIB. I nearly bought it as
>>>>> my
>>>>> first phone with speech, thank Heavens I didn't. Maybe someone has
>>>>> decided
>>>>> that blind people again need something basic. I have to say I love
>>>>> the
>>>>> Symbian Nokia phones.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jackie Cairns"<jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To:<access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 2:52 PM
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Forgive me, but having read the article via the link Tom posted, is
>>>>>> this not reinventing the wheel, or have I missed something? Why have
>>>>>> a Smartphone touch-screen mobile for blind and visually impaired
>>>>>> people with specific apps when you can already access either Apple
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> Android handsets?
>>>>>> Hoping
>>>>>> someone might clarify the point of having such a phone in addition to
>>>>>> what is already out there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Tom Lorimer
>>>>>> Sent: 14 July 2012 11:43
>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try this link:
>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18818279
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: jeff flint<mailto:jeffflint15@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:54 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My brother in Australia heard a report from England that a new mobile
>>>>>> phone, with lots of bells an whistles, was launched last Thursday in
>>>>>> London.
>>>>>> Does anybody know anything about it?
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>
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