Jackie - just got this from Stephen Gigger: "Andy Yes the N82 has a music player. This is true for all the N-Series phones even the AT&T/Cingular N75 firmware. Yes you can setup play list, it automatically sort things into different orders like artist, genres etc... Yes you have the Back and forward within a track and also prior and next track as well. You also have a EQ, and the advanced controls for balance and other stuff. The N82 also has a PodCasting player already on the phone as well." So Jackie, what do you think now? - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Phone contracts with O2 |I didn't see a dedicated music player facility on the N82 Andy, from my very | quick observation last week, but it will have the ability to deal with music | of course. There isn't the hard drive that the N91 has, but you can buy | micro SD cards to put in it. | | If you get one, let us know what it's like and how it compares to the N91. | | Jackie | | Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx | Skype Name: Cairnsplace | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:13 AM | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Phone contracts with O2 | | | > Hi Jackie - I'm sure you're right, that later in the year there will be | > other phones that will work with the KNFB reader, but that isn't to say | > the | > phones themselves will be 'better' than the N82? My next phone has to be | > as | > good as the N91, and from all I hear, the N82 has all the same features? - | > | > Andy | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx> | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:05 PM | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Phone contracts with O2 | > | > | > | Oh Andy! how could you? Look I could be so wide of the mark here it | > isn't | > | true, but I reckon that software is going to be on more than just the | > N82 | > | within a few months, and I have absolutely no inside info on that, other | > | than a logical hunch. | > | | > | Jackie | > | | > | Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx | > | Skype Name: Cairnsplace | > | ----- Original Message ----- | > | From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:41 PM | > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Phone contracts with O2 | > | | > | | > | > Hi Jackie - | > | > | > | > Yep, I have the N91, and an excellent phone it is! and I might well | > keep | > | > it | > | > anyway, but I'm looking at the N82 quite seriously, because of the | > KNFB | > | > reader. Of course, I might well sell my N91 for the right price | > <smile> - | > | > | > | > Andy | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > | > From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx> | > | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:30 PM | > | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Phone contracts with O2 | > | > | > | > | > | > | Hi Andy | > | > | | > | > | So are you thinking of abandoning the N91 then? It is you who has | > one | > | > of | > | > | those babies isn't it? | > | > | | > | > | I hope you get something you want in the end. | > | > | | > | > | Jackie | > | > | | > | > | Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx | > | > | Skype Name: Cairnsplace | > | > | ----- Original Message ----- | > | > | From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | > | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | > | Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:32 PM | > | > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Phone contracts with O2 | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | > Hi Jackie - | > | > | > | > | > | > I was looking at O2 because they seem to be the only network to do | > the | > | > N82 | > | > | > on contract, but Google brought up mobilephones direct that have | > it | > | > with | > | > | > Voda. I'm concerned about dealing with a sort of agent or whatever | > | > they | > | > | > are, | > | > | > for the major providers, wondering about what kind of service | > they | > | > offer | > | > | > etc. Mobilephones direct sound too close to empiredirect, a | > faceless | > | > | > call-centre outfit that I had a big problem with when buying a | > washing | > | > | > machine a few years ago! | > | > | > | > | > | > So, still pondering the best way to go on this one - | > | > | > | > | > | > Andy | > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > | > | > From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx> | > | > | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:37 PM | > | > | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Phone contracts with O2 | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Hi Andy | > | > | > | | > | > | > | On O2 Pay-As-You-Go, you call 4444 and are advised of your | > credit | > | > | > balance | > | > | > | and remaining text allowance if you have one. On Ian's | > contract, | > he | > | > | > | couldn't do it in that way. He had to call O2 Customer Services | > by | > | > | > ringing | > | > | > | 202 and asking them for the latest information on his balance in | > | > person. | > | > | > It | > | > | > | drove him mad because it often took ages to get through, and he | > | > couldn't | > | > | > | ring them at certain times. I did ask why they couldn't provide | > an | > | > | > | automated service, and they told me it was something they were | > | > thinking | > | > | > | about as other people had asked for it too. | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Ian uses so many texts that it concerned me he was going over | > his | > | > | > allowance | > | > | > | and starting to run up a bill that he couldn't always check on | > | > demand, | > | > | > so | > | > | > he | > | > | > | decided to return his mobile number to the top-up service which, | > in | > | > | > fact, | > | > | > | works out better for people like him who text a lot. | > | > | > | | > | > | > | On one occasion, he wanted to change his billing date to | > coincide | > | > with | > | > | > when | > | > | > | he got paid, and they made a real mess of it which I had to sort | > | > out. | > | > | > They | > | > | > | did apologise, and said it was their fault for the | > administrative | > | > error | > | > | > they | > | > | > | made, but we decided between us that it would be better for Ian | > to | > | > go | > | > | > back | > | > | > | to top-up, which he is happier with, and is able to manage | > himself | > | > as | > | > he | > | > | > | pays for what he uses. | > | > | > | | > | > | > | It might be that you'll be fine if you opt for O2, and that | > Ian's | > | > was | > | > an | > | > | > | unfortunate situation that you won't experience. | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Good luck. | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Jackie | > | > | > | Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx | > | > | > | Skype Name: Cairnsplace | > | > | > | ----- Original Message ----- | > | > | > | From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | > | > | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | > | > | Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:14 PM | > | > | > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Phone contracts with O2 | > | > | > | | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > Jackie - thanks for sharing this experience. | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > When you said your son couldn't easily phone a free number to | > find | > | > out | > | > | > how | > | > | > | > many mins etc he had left, is this to say that they don't | > provide | > | > this | > | > | > | > kind | > | > | > | > of service? - | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Andy | > | > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > | > | > | > From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx> | > | > | > | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | > | > | > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 6:17 PM | > | > | > | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Phone contracts with O2 | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Hi Andy | > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | My son took out one of the O2 30-day opt-out contracts last | > | > year, | > | > | > but | > | > | > | > didn't | > | > | > | > | like it and returned to O2 Pay-As-You-Go. With the | > contract, | > he | > | > | > could | > | > | > | > have | > | > | > | > | 500 free texts per month and 600 free minutes. But they | > messed | > | > up | > | > | > his | > | > | > | > | billing date, which I had to sort out as I was the account | > | > holder | > | > | > since | > | > | > | > he | > | > | > | > | is still under 18. Then he couldn't easily phone a free | > number | > | > to | > | > | > find | > | > | > | > out | > | > | > | > | how many texts or minutes he had remaining as he could do | > with | > | > his | > | > | > | > top-up | > | > | > | > | service. He got so fed up, and frankly so did I, that he | > | > terminated | > | > | > the | > | > | > | > | contract and went back to what he had before with the same | > | > company. | > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | I'm not alone in saying O2 aren't the most helpful in-store | > | > network | > | > | > | > either, | > | > | > | > | which always counts for a lot with me when people are | > assistive | > | > and | > | > | > | > | friendly. | > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | You might have better luck though, but I personally don't | > like | > | > O2 | > | > | > | > Customer | > | > | > | > | Services. Sorry to sound negative, but they aren't my | > favourite | > | > | > network | > | > | > | > by | > | > | > | > | a long way. | > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Jackie | > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx | > | > | > | > | Skype Name: Cairnsplace | > | > | > | > | ----- Original Message ----- | > | > | > | > | From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | > | > | > | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | > | > | > | Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:59 PM | > | > | > | > | Subject: [access-uk] Phone contracts with O2 | > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > Hi all | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > O2 seem to be the only provider offering the N82 on | > contract. | > | > Have | > | > | > | > people | > | > | > | > | > on | > | > | > | > | > here good or bad experiences with this provider? | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > I think Chris Hallsworth is with them and experienced | > internet | > | > | > access | > | > | > | > | > restriction issues. | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > I want to be able to access my email, use Wayfinder | > Access, | > | > and | > | > | > brows | > | > | > | > the | > | > | > | > | > web, will O2 let me do this, or do they have restrictions | > | > limiting | > | > | > | > users | > | > | > | > | > to | > | > | > | > | > their own GPRS. 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