RAILCARD SITE AGAINIan, May I suggest that you politely remind David Sindell at ATOC that his organisation has a General duty to comply with the Disability Equality Duty, and that as anticipation underpins the fundaments of there compliance, perhaps the inclusion of disabled persons should be considered before making such sweeping statements such as "cost to implement out weighing the benefits?" Kind regards Colin Fowler Disability Consultant www.social-model.org.uk Telephone: 01582 483 283 Text/Mobile: 07793 111 253 E mail: col.fowler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Macrae To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 2:01 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: RAILCARD SITE AGAIN Well, I'm very happy to feed stuff back to ATOC and will certainly do so on this discussion. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Damon Sent: 07 November 2006 13:57 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: RAILCARD SITE AGAIN I think the point here is that we should all communicate. As a minority group we need to be proactive ... and helpful to these services who don't know how to cater for us and may well wish to. ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham Page To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: RAILCARD SITE AGAIN the obvious question is how does he know the demand is low? it is possibley still the case that most people eligible for the disabled persons' rail card don't have access to computers but the amount that do is clearly growing all the time. Cheers Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Macrae To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:15 AM Subject: [access-uk] RAILCARD SITE AGAIN Following my enquiry to ATOC's head of inclusion and accessibility, here's his response. I'd asked him to put a text version of the form up as an alternative to PDF and also wondered why it wasn't possible to apply online. He says: Ian, I will get a word version of the form organised. As for online ren ewals at the moment there is v.low demand for this - but we are monitoring the situation. At the moment the cost of providing the facility outweigh the benefits. http://www.bbc.co.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. http://www.bbc.co.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this.