Thanks for your input on this Sandra and Douglas. I think though we should get clear what happens if you install Real Alternative with the BBC streams, which I'm interested in. With Listen Again you do indeed get the choice of using Real stand alone, but only if the Listen Again stream doesn't carry with it the music interest copyright nobling of streams where you can skip forward by 5 or fifteen minute increments, but not back. Its all laughable Really! (Pun not entirely unintended! So, lets get this clear. On such nobbled streams I presume the BBC Player is the only interface that can be used. I'm guessing from what Sandra and Douglas tell us that Real Alternative is doing the 'playing' of the files, but the dreaded Beeb custom interface is not to be escaped, even if you are using Real Alternative. Obviously, you can get away from it in cases where music isn't a substantial part of the program. So, unless I've got this wrong, I assume Real Alternative is a partial liberation only from the Beeb interface, and a total liberation where streams aren't obliged to use the Beeb interface. From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Douglas Harrison Ray, I have only Real Alternative on this system and can get live or listen again BBC material without any problem. I can even listen to http://pressakey.net which is another site using embedded audio and the Real media format. Douglas On 22 May 2006 at 8:10, Ray's Home wrote: > OK, so its thumbs down for Real Player. But, will Real Alternative play > streams normally reserved for the BBC Player? I've a feeling the answer > is "No", but please, someone, tell me if I'm right or wrong on this one. > > From Ray > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq