This was my thinking, re. SolutionsRadio as a possible 'universal' means of accessing information and entertainment for the VI community. Bear in mind that TNAUK are said to be interested, as well as RNIB. Ordinary people, the majority using this list, have no idea what the Agenda of RNIB and the big providers in our world might have in mind, but a bulk purchase, running into many thousands, as with talking book machines, could see a very considerable saving to RNIB if it decided to provide such a thing as the SolutionsRadio to VI users. That wouldn't prevent them from offering it as a sale item too. If they could push this thing out along with a near automatic customized broadband connection aimed at the users of the box, with as near automatic connection as possible, then you could see the SolutionsRadio being um, VIable? More speculation suggests to me that, AS for the lack of portability, well, an upgrade aught to be in sight (all puns unintended) to make this a wireless device, with a neat device plugging into the phone socket for WiFi connectivity. This brings me to a second possible extension, and more speculation. What if the SolutionsRadio could record to a USB stick? If it could, then the NewsBridge system could become both an interim and integral part of the system. Stuff could be saved to a USB stick for more portable playing on a NewsBridge player, or even a truly portable player too. NewsBridge might in any case be an interim link between what we have now, and what we must have in the future; a digital medium to replace the obsolete systems we have currently. As always we're left gasping at the add-on cost of access as I know one or two internet radios are available now as mass-market devices costing fifty-sixty pounds. If a fully accessible ready made device isn't going to come to market, then people like SolutionsRadio will fill the gap. Still, as I've said on Vi-gen, there will be a 'can't pay, won't pay' refusnik movement that will ensure take up via some corporate approach, such as only big players like RNIB can bring off, and most likely ccok-up too! From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- George Bell Hi Wendy, The prices you are seeing are based on a one of situation. Be assured that if an organisation started talking numbers of units, the price per unit would drop considerably. Likewise, a deal can or could be reached with an ISP to provide an organisation with multiple connections for its members at wholesale prices. George. -----Original Message----- Wendy Sharpe Ray I have just been exploring the Solutions Radio site and then listened to the Soundings feature. It all sounds very interesting, but it occurs to me that there is rather a lot of expense involved. If a talking newspaper, for example, wanted to give this to all its members, at £300 a unit this would come out very dear. Any member who did not already have a broadband connection would need to set one up, and it seems to me that you can only do that if you have a computer. Many people might not fancy shelling out more cash for a broadband connection. The radio can use a dial-up connection, but we all know how slow that can be, and when it comes to streaming audio you often get lots of pauses in transmission. The Soundings feature showed the radio set up with lots of choices, which is great, but many of them would need to be paid for, such as talking newspapers from TNAUK. When you consider how cheaply you can still buy a cassette recorder and tapes, or a CD player and CD's, I think this option might be rather financially daunting. I hate to pour cold water over any development which could improve the quality of life for many people, and I may be missing something here, but the cost would seem to me to prohibit widespread use of this device. On the other hand, people in Holland seem to have gone for it in a big way. Wendy -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray's Home Sent: 07 November 2007 15:16 To: VI-Genaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Access-Uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Solutionsradio (another cassette replacement) Funny that nearly everyone missed this at Sight Village earlier this year. It is a completely accessible internet 'radio' but without the computer! So, it'll receive streaming audio from stations and services you select via a nice menu system that breaks things down into genres and individual services. Bit pricy at around £3.00, but RNIB and TNs are said to be interested. (It would pay RnIB to distribute this sort of device at a subsidy, I think, as it obviously avoids costs of posting out stuff. (No, not just referring to actual postage costs.) Seems Americans are interested too, and I believe it has been bought by an Alaskan organisation. there is book marking and some fast forward and rewind capability. Only two things I'd say thus far. 1. No connectivity mentioned to the outside world. 2. No in-built recording facility, though easy enough to go back and just stream again. This does seem a much better solution to cassette replacement for TNs and the like. (People could still send in contributions via whatever means they want.) More info. http://www.solutionsradio.nl/index.php?newlang=english Soundings magazine download feature: http://www.soundings.org/select/soundings-webbox.mp3 Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq