Hi Chris, How can you be totally blind, but with light perception? <Smile>. I just found that amusing. I am totally blind, period. I see nothing. That is the only way you can be totally blind. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Hallsworth Sent: Sunday 10 February 2008 17:07 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: URGENT HELP WITH CREDIT CARD Yeah, I have a chip and pin card myself, and it's brilliant! I'm able to type in the pin no problems, yet I'm totally blind with some light perception. Derek Hornby wrote: > Hi Steve > You ask > > "Why is PDF not accessible? Or should I say in what way?" > > If someone is not aware how to access a file, (or for that matter > even a website) then as far as the person is concerned he/she is > having an *access* problem! > > You may well argue that not having the knowledge, doesn't mean there > is an access problem. True, but one needs to consider access from > the individual's point of view. > > Just consider chip and PIN as a good example. > There are people that will say they are not able to use chip and PIN > on the grounds not able to see the keys. > But there are also many totally blind that will say they care able > to use the key pads without sight. > So what does this show us? > > Why is access different for different people? > > Regards, Derek > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq