[access-uk] Re: d i y ecdl[Scanned]
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- Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:06:05 +0100
Hi all
I guess it depends on the college and the staff. Last year three students with
no sight achieved ECDL level 1. They are now working on level 2. Another
student with very little sight has achieved one level 1 module and will soon
take another exam.
A couple of years ago 2 students, one with no sight, achieved the full ECDL.
I work one to one with the students in their college session and they also
study at home. We don't tamper with the course or the papers. They are the same
for all students, with no sight or sighted. I do apply to the British Computer
Society for extra time of 33% so it's available if necessary. The students and
I know that their success has the same validity as the next person's success on
what is quite a demanding course of study.
Interestingly one student's sighted cousin is studying online. She occasionally
sends in completed work for marking and believes that she is passing the
modules. There is some small print in the website that mentions going to a test
centre to take exams but the rest of the website says that you are getting a
certificate but when you look closer it's a certificate from the company saying
that you have a completed a course of study with them.
Best wishes
Naomi
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jackie Cairns
Sent: 12 October 2007 11:18
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: d i y ecdl[Scanned]
Yeah I bet they are Jim. I would only ever embark on such a course if I was
tied down kicking and screaming (smile.), but good luck if you manage it.
Whenever I hear of an institution saying they are putting together a package
of materials to make a course accessible, I hear an alarm bell in my head
that says oh no, not tampering with the real thing are you? That will make
the qualification really pretty pointless if it is adapted too much. Local
colleges try doing it all the time, and I must admit I was having none of
that in my time there. It was either working with the tools I had to
complete it in my own right or not at all. Work-arounds are acceptable, but
not revamping the course altogether.
Anyway good luck.
Jackie
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From: "jim mcauslan" <axdr89@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:06 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: d i y ecdl
> Hi Jackie,
> I've been talking to some folk at RNIB Loughborough college who have put
> together a package of learning materials which cover clait, clait plus
> and ecdl. These learning materials and delivery system have been put
> together so that vi peple can complete these courses independently,
> however the cost comes in at £1000. My local college are balking at the
> price. If I could get funding for it, I would buy it for myself and give
> it a go but that doesn't look likely.
>
>
> Jim McAuslan from sunny Findhorn
> Minds are like parachutes, they work best when open
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:57 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: d i y ecdl
>
>
>> Jim and Ray, I thought many moons ago that Dorton College did one of
>> these courses which was designed with us in mind. But that was a long
>> time ago, and I've never ever heard anything positive from a blind
>> perspective about doing one since. It makes me kind of smile to think of
>> local colleges taking it on for someone with some or no sight. I gave my
>> establishment the run-around doing journalism, and that brought up
>> challenges at every single turn, (grin.)
>>
>> Would BCAB know?
>>
>> Jackie
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "jim mcauslan" <axdr89@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:37 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: d i y ecdl
>>
>>
>>> Hi Ray,
>>>
>>> What surprises me is that the institution that produces ecdl modules
>>> hasn't been inundated with complaints from vi users and legal notices
>>> from whoever enforces the DDA legislation.
>>>
>>> Jim McAuslan from sunny Findhorn
>>> Minds are like parachutes, they work best when open
>>> T 01309-690-124
>>> M 07875-670-833
>>> e mail
>>> axdr89@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Skype jmca011
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:25 AM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: d i y ecdl
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jim, probably not. We've had at least one person here say that she
>>>> found the ECDLcourse local to her was not a viable option.
>>>>
>>>> This said, I've seen one or two on other lists mention they've done
>>>> it, but I suspect they may have had a bit of useful sight.
>>>>
>>>> Must say that what I've seen of the modules my sister is doing -
>>>> (she's notVI) suggest to me that the web based stuff at least isn't
>>>> really doable. Seem to recall it uses a lot of flash stuff, and that
>>>> seems to be very nearly a no go area.
>>>>
>>>> Hope you get some more positive feedback and comments than I'm giving
>>>> out here.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> From Ray
>>>> I can be contacted off-list at:
>>>> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> jim mcauslan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi List,
>>>>
>>>> Is there such a thing as a totally doable ecdl for those of us with no
>>>> sight
>>>> and who want to do it without sighted assistance? If there is where
>>>> can I,
>>>> or my local college, find it? If there isn't then why and what can
>>>> the
>>>> blind community do about it?
>>>>
>>>> Jim McAuslan from sunny Findhorn
>>>> Minds are like parachutes, they work best when open
>>>> T 01309-690-124
>>>> M 07875-670-833
>>>> e mail
>>>> axdr89@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Skype jmca011
>>>>
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