[AR] Re: Alternative propulsion was: Flying to Orbit with Hydrogen?

  • From: Henry Spencer <hspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Arocket List <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2019 23:42:07 -0500 (EST)

On Wed, 25 Dec 2019, John Dom wrote:

Skylon, Space X, NASA, India, China, Japan: what am I missing is why non-chemical propulsion gets no priority (in order to make it real). Like fission or fusion propulsion or space elevators.

The reasonably-proven fission technology doesn't have enough advantage over chemical to justify the massive hassles of developing it. (You could launch many kilotons of LOX and kerosene to LEO for the cost of the first operational nuclear engine.) More advanced fission is a considerable technical challenge, fusion is worse, and space elevators are still worse.

And the big snag, always, is what Jeff Greason said at Space Access 2016: "The existing markets have poor elasticity and the elastic markets have poor existence." For investing billions in radical new launch technology, private money wants to see near-certainty of massive return on investment, and government money wants to see firm requirements for it from funded missions, plus near-certain technical success. No such certainties are available.

As for an energy source on the surface, I'd but my bets on lava streams below heat exchangers like Iceland does. Not windmills, nor powersats.

There are just too few places where there is lots of reasonably accessible geothermal heat. Hundreds of megawatts, yes, in good places like Iceland. Gigawatts, maybe in a few places with a concerted effort. But getting the world off its fossil-fuel addiction, despite the transition of Asia and Africa to industrial societies, needs tens of terawatts.

Very few power sources scale up that far (in fact, it's not clear that fossil fuels can, for any realistic length of time). We badly need to waste fewer resources and less enthusiasm on concepts that inherently cannot do even a useful fraction of the job.

Henry

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