[AR] Re: Bye, everyone, I'm done with this
- From: "Anthony Cesaroni" <anthony@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 21:57:45 -0400
All we need is a “non peeing section” in the swimming pool. Good luck with at. 😊
Anthony J. Cesaroni
President/CEO
Cesaroni Technology/Cesaroni Aerospace
<http://www.cesaronitech.com/> http://www.cesaronitech.com/
(941) 360-3100 x1004 Sarasota
(905) 887-2370 x222 Toronto
From: arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of
Troy Prideaux
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 9:50 PM
To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AR] Re: Bye, everyone, I'm done with this
So, we’re on autopilot with nobody at the controls. It’s pretty amazing it’s
been running as smoothly as it has been then.
Troy
From: arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Rocket (Redacted sender
"ar0cketman" for DMARC)
Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2020 11:43 AM
To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AR] Re: Bye, everyone, I'm done with this
I put in a request for list ownership to the powers that be at FreeList.org. I
have attempted this in the past to no avail. If anybody wishes, feel free to
also contact them on my behalf, I am willing to step up and once again perform
moderation duties.
On Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 07:10:36 PM MDT, William Claybaugh
<wclaybaugh2@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:wclaybaugh2@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Ray:
Thank you.
If I can help out, please let me know.
Bill
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 7:03 PM Ray Rocket <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
If there are mods or admins, can we please permaban Craig? Or can we all just
pool our money and buy him L2 access at nasaspaceflight?
Unfortunately, the only list admin died before turning the list over. I'll see
if anything can be done.
On Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 05:13:35 PM MDT, Michael Clive <zeinin@xxxxxxxxx
<
mailto:zeinin@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Totally off topic of rockets, but on topic to this thread:
This is not the only online community that I am a part of that is having
moderation problems.
A lot of groups desperately want to have a free-speech low moderation policy
because it sounds good on paper, and makes them feel like they are doing the
Right Thing. But the problem is that not all speech is good speech. Some people
have convinced themselves that exercising the tiniest bit of judgment about
what is germane to a given group, immediately makes you an orwellian villain.
Meanwhile, the bad speech drives out the good, and all the people who used to
like it in that community leave.
The most successful, 25 year old online community that I am part of has a
hyperactive moderation group, and bans and probations are handed out dozens of
times per day. Because of that, the community is relatively fun to participate
in.
Another community that I am part of is disintegrating over the COVID thing.
COVID deniers and anti-maskers are taking over, and the free-speech
fundamentalist mods and admins are wringing their hands about if and when we
can censor their speech. I'm an admin, and I started to delete insane
COVID-denial Qanon BS. This got me called "Pathetic" by the billionaire CEO of
some hot new defense startup.
Look, Craig should have been banned a long time ago. I think I was the one who
got him to shut up last year.
If there are mods or admins, can we please permaban Craig? Or can we all just
pool our money and buy him L2 access at nasaspaceflight?
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 3:58 PM William Claybaugh <wclaybaugh2@xxxxxxxxx
<
mailto:wclaybaugh2@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Terry:
I have to agree with Troy.
The well named Mr. Fink is not someone who should be posting to this
list—whilst he is plainly at least amateurish, he is no amateur rocket
builder—and were this list properly curated he would have been blocked long ago.
All of which is intended to observe that the problem here may be with the
moderation—or lack thereof—of the list.
You are too valuable a resource to this community to lose over so easily solved
a problem: I speak out of turn here, but perhaps you would consider becoming
moderator of this list? Few seem to me better qualified....
Bill
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 4:17 PM Troy Prideaux <troy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<
mailto:troy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
I really hope you change your mind Terry. You're definitely one of the reasons
many of us are on here. These are trying times, no doubt about it, but hang in
there.
Cheers,
Troy
-----Original Message-----
From: arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ]
On
Behalf Of Terry McCreary
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 10:37 PM
To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [AR] Bye, everyone, I'm done with this
A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject.
--- Winston Churchill (among others)
I've been on Arocket for almost as long as it's been in existence. Probably
longer than some people on the list have been alive. There's been lots of
good
information, and some garbage posts. But I'm damn tired of hearing about
how hydrogen is the bestest fuel, good for rockets, airplanes,
fireworks(?!?!?)...probably should be a daily dietary supplement. It's almost
as
tiresome as listening to a certain US president...
I know, I can always delete posts. But each such post is an annoyance,
especially when the poster is a fanatic by Churchill's quote. And with
everything going on in the US right now, I certainly don't need any more
annoyance in my life.
I'll miss hearing about real rocketry from people who do real rocketry (rather
than those who pretend). But the annoyance factor has finally overshadowed
the utility -- at least for me; I don't know about anyone else.
And all you real rocketeers, keep plugging. Don't blow yerself up.
--
Dr. Terry McCreary
Professor Emeritus
Murray State University
Murray KY 42071
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