Currently official "Space" is 62 miles. LOL I wont believe they did that again without Official Record Governing Body representation? Did they? Monroe > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [AR] Just where does space start? > From: Rick Maschek <rickmaschek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Sun, August 31, 2014 3:10 am > To: Arocket List <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Thanks Bill. A question people have asked for a long time has been where does > space start? > For the Air Force it had been 50 miles and many feel it is now 62 miles (100 > kilometers). Using the 50 mile standard, the RRS team reached space in 1996, > using the 62 mile standard, CSXT likely reached space, if not the 72 miles > they say was reached in 2004 and again last month...see below. > > If we are successful, I wouldn't consider us the first to reach space; as for > first with the homebuilt part, that might be debatable but doesn't really > matter. One could easily post other altitudes as firsts but to me the two > that would really be 'firsts' for amateurs would be to obtain orbit and the > second would be to escape from the earth entirely. There may soon be a team > doing that first one shortly. > > Rick > > From GoFast 2014 Space Launch Team > > The GoFast 2014 rocket officially set a new world record on July 14, 2014 as > the highest and fastest amateur rocket ever launched into space. > > Analysis of the data from the recovered military grade Inertial Measurement > Unit (IMU) that flew onboard shows that the GoFast rocket reached 385,800 > feet above mean sea level (73.1 miles) and hit a top speed of 3,580 miles per > hour. The old record held by the CSXT’s GoFast 2004 rocket was 72 miles with > a top speed of 3,420 mph. > > The GoFast 2014 IMU had flown successfully on four commercial space missions > at White Sands Missile Range (WSMR) in New Mexico and was calibrated using > C-Band transponder US Army radar tracking data prior to its flight into space > on the GoFast rocket July 14, 2014. Statistical analysis of the WSMR flights > and the GoFast 2014 launch verifies the 73.1 miles attained by the GoFast > rocket has a variation of 0.6 miles with a confidence level of 95%. > > Congratulations to everyone for a job well done! Thank you so much for > everyone’s participation and endless hours making this launch a success. > > GoFast 2014 list of accomplishments; > • World record highest altitude rocket launch > • World record fastest speed rocket launch > • First photo taken from space onboard an amateur rocket > • Second amateur rocket in history to reach space > > > > > From: Bill Claybaugh <wclaybaugh2@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [AR] Re: Super Loki Dart design documents > Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 09:35:21 -0400 > > Since the CSXT team has never proven their claim to have reached 72 miles; > should you succeed and publish, you will be the first to prove that you > reached space with a homebuilt. > Good luck! > > Bill > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 30, 2014, at 1:51, Rick Maschek <rickmaschek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > That's cool Mark. Last year when we were at White Sands for an UP Aerospace > > launch we also investigated several sounding rockets at the missile range. > > Two of them were the Lokis and after taking measurements we constructed a > > similar vehicle that we are in fact testing next weekend at the FAR site in > > California. We are hoping to get one of these variants in space 2015-2016. > > > > > > Rick > >