Plausibly, space REALLY starts where the Earth's atmosphere ends. That's the geopause/magnetosphere, which varies, but is tens of thousands of kilometres up. On 31 August 2014 11:10, Rick Maschek <rickmaschek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Thanks Bill. A question people have asked for a long time has been where > does space start? > For the Air Force it had been 50 miles and many feel it is now 62 miles > (100 kilometers). Using the 50 mile standard, the RRS team reached space in > 1996, using the 62 mile standard, CSXT likely reached space, if not the 72 > miles they say was reached in 2004 and again last month...see below. > > If we are successful, I wouldn't consider us the first to reach space; as > for first with the homebuilt part, that might be debatable but doesn't > really matter. One could easily post other altitudes as firsts but to me > the two that would really be 'firsts' for amateurs would be to obtain orbit > and the second would be to escape from the earth entirely. There may soon > be a team doing that first one shortly. > > Rick > > From > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *GoFast 2014 Space Launch TeamThe GoFast 2014 rocket officially set a new > world record on July 14, 2014 as the highest and fastest amateur rocket > ever launched into space. Analysis of the data from the recovered military > grade Inertial Measurement Unit (IMU) that flew onboard shows that the > GoFast rocket reached 385,800 feet above mean sea level (73.1 miles) and > hit a top speed of 3,580 miles per hour. The old record held by the CSXT's > GoFast 2004 rocket was 72 miles with a top speed of 3,420 mph.The GoFast > 2014 IMU had flown successfully on four commercial space missions at White > Sands Missile Range (WSMR) in New Mexico and was calibrated using C-Band > transponder US Army radar tracking data prior to its flight into space on > the GoFast rocket July 14, 2014. Statistical analysis of the WSMR flights > and the GoFast 2014 launch verifies the 73.1 miles attained by the GoFast > rocket has a variation of 0.6 miles with a confidence level of > 95%.Congratulations to everyone for a job well done! Thank you so much for > everyone's participation and endless hours making this launch a > success.GoFast 2014 list of accomplishments;* World record highest altitude > rocket launch* World record fastest speed rocket launch* First photo taken > from space onboard an amateur rocket* Second amateur rocket in history to > reach space* > > > > From: Bill Claybaugh <wclaybaugh2@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [AR] Re: Super Loki Dart design documents > Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 09:35:21 -0400 > > Since the CSXT team has never proven their claim to have reached 72 miles; > should you succeed and publish, you will be the first to prove that you > reached space with a homebuilt. > Good luck! > > Bill > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 30, 2014, at 1:51, Rick Maschek <rickmaschek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > That's cool Mark. Last year when we were at White Sands for an UP > Aerospace launch we also investigated several sounding rockets at the > missile range. Two of them were the Lokis and after taking measurements we > constructed a similar vehicle that we are in fact testing next weekend at > the FAR site in California. We are hoping to get one of these variants in > space 2015-2016. > > > > > > Rick > > > -- -Ian Woollard