Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2014, at 14:00, Uwe Klein <uwe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Am 31.08.2014 17:44, schrieb Monroe L. King Jr.: >> I'd say space starts when you can make a full orbit from a coast at >> 17,500 mph or something like that. Where the drag is low enough to allow >> at least one orbit. > > That is dependent on your drag/mass ratio. > > there just is no hard border to space. > live with it. > > uwe > > Sometimes political boundaries have physical form: mountains, rivers. Sometimes the do not: Wyoming, Colorado. This is a case where the definition is essentially political and accordingly attempts to render it as physical will likely fail. Perhaps it would be best to simply accept the mathematically convenient "100 km" number proposed by the EU and apparently accepted by this community for the last 20 years. Bill >