[etni] Fw: Re: Letter from Ran Erez to Judy Steiner
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- Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:35:33 +0200
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Subject: Re: Letter from Ran Erez to Judy Steiner
From: Michele Ben <mggben@xxxxxxxxx>
Obviously lies shouldn't be used to plead any case. I haven't seen any
official paper saying that marking logs are paid like marking a bagrut
exam. Perhaps that was done in the pilot, but has it been put into policy
for implementation of the program?
As for the way Irgun HaMorim does things - I have never liked it. I
have, in the distant past, said as much on this list. On the other hand,
Histadrut HaMorim is no better and has sold all teachers short by signing
Ofek Hadash.
Michele
Mitzi wrote:
> I certainly don't object to getting paid more! I DO object to lies being
> used to plead the case. Any teacher who takes a course and already has all
> of the 20 gmulim - whether in civics, history or English, doesn't benefit
> from the gmul given for the course, so I don't think that is relevant. To
> say that teachers are being forced to take the course this summer with no
> compensation is simply not true. I happen to know that there is a long
> waiting list of teachers who wanted to take the course in the summer, and
> were closed out of the course because of the many teachers who signed up
> first.
> As for marking the logs, yes - we are paid as bagrut markers at the
> present
> rate of 126 NIS per what they think you can do in an hour - in this case 5
> logs. (For an F exam, it's 6 exam papers). If you mark tasks as you go and
> all you have to do at the end is mark the last task and make sure all of
> the
> assignments are in the log, this number per hour is definitely fair.
> I've always thought there should be gmul "hachana l'bagrut" for the
> projects and oral bagrut- especially since it is a separate bagrut exam,
> complete with magen grade! But, as I understand, Irgun Hamorim signed an
> agreement with the ministry about the projects when they were started.
> There
> was no attempt at negotiation for better terms before sanctions were
> announced. I don't think that is the way to get want is due us.
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