----- Original Message ----- From: judyastary@xxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: winter bagrut Dear All, I feel I simply have to have my twopennies worth re the Winter Bagrut. A few weeks ago, my staff and I were having an online discussion about whether or not it was going to be feasible to do the Winter Bagrut as has been the "done" thing in our school for several years now for exactly the same pragmatic motives that Aviva Shapiro set down! Personally, I have always been against this practice. All the more shocking is the idea in these times of strikebound obivion. We decided to postpone the discussion which seemed (and in retrospect, was) premature. With all due respect, how can any self-respecting school even contemplate the idea of 11th, 12th or whatever graders sitting the Winter moed after a miniumum of six weeks of no study and prior to that virtually no lessons since the beginining of the school year, not to mention what went on, or did not go on since Purim 2006!). And the end (of the strike, I mean) is not even insight! Whatever happened to educational morality, dear Principals? Why are English staff in Winter-Bagrut-norm schools not hollering from rooftops? Stop the travesty!!! Isn't it bad enough that we have been forced out of the classroom for more than six weeks at this crucial time? ( I do not mean this as a criticism, merely a statement of fact!) When / whenever that may be, we recross the threshholds of our classrooms, let it at least be with the good will to plod on till summer and try to make amends for this wickedly injurious (to out pupils) period of inactivity. The winter moed existed long before the political decision (of the previous Tzaarat Hahinuch, Limor Livnat, to allow high schools to preempt the summer session and "get English over with" in the winter. There is no hard and fast rule that schools cannot be flexible. English teachers, please make your voices heard on this issue. Aviva wrote: >The winter bagrut is NOT only for external pupils or kids wanting to >improve their grades. Unfortunately it has become a way for schools to cut costs by "forcing" the teachers to have all yud bet students complete the bagrut in the winter . This way , the teachers teach lfewer hours (and are paid less!!) . I am paralyzed with fear that my school will make us have the kids take the winter bagrut in spite of (so far) having missed 5 weeks of school.. Because if we don't, then the entire second semester will be messed up and of course this also affects our yud aleph students who are to begin in the spring. As for when we will find time to practice and do the oral exam, I have NO idea !! ?So for all of you who didn't know this,, please know that many (more and more) schools have their yud bet students finish in Winter and this year it's going to be a great challenge !!! Judith Astary ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - www.etni.org ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------