[etni] Fw: re: winter bagrut

  • From: "Ask" <ask@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Etni" <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:49:17 +0200

----- Original Message ----- 
From: judyastary@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: winter bagrut


Dear All,
I feel I simply have to have my twopennies worth re the Winter Bagrut. A few 
weeks ago, my staff and I were having an online discussion about whether or 
not it was going to be feasible to do the Winter Bagrut as has been the 
"done" thing in our school for several years now for exactly the same 
pragmatic motives that Aviva Shapiro set down! Personally, I have always 
been against this practice. All the more shocking is the idea in these times 
of strikebound obivion. We decided to postpone the discussion which seemed 
(and in retrospect, was) premature.
With all due respect, how can any self-respecting school even contemplate 
the idea of 11th, 12th or whatever graders sitting the Winter moed after a 
miniumum of six weeks of no study and prior to that virtually no lessons 
since the beginining of the school year, not to mention what went on, or did 
not go on since Purim 2006!). And the end (of the strike, I mean) is not 
even insight!
Whatever happened to educational morality, dear Principals?
Why are English staff in Winter-Bagrut-norm schools not hollering from 
rooftops? Stop the travesty!!!
Isn't it bad enough that we have been forced out of the classroom for more 
than six weeks at this crucial time? ( I do not mean this as a criticism, 
merely a statement of fact!)
When / whenever that may be, we recross the threshholds of our classrooms, 
let it at least be with the good will to plod on till summer and try to make 
amends for this wickedly injurious (to out pupils) period of inactivity.
The winter moed existed long before the political decision (of the previous 
Tzaarat Hahinuch, Limor Livnat, to allow high schools to preempt the summer 
session and "get English over with" in the winter. There is no hard and fast 
rule that schools cannot be flexible.
English teachers, please make your voices heard on this issue.


Aviva wrote:
>The winter bagrut is NOT only for external pupils or kids wanting to 
>improve
their grades. Unfortunately it has become a way for schools to cut costs by
"forcing" the teachers to have all yud bet students complete the bagrut in
the winter . This way , the teachers teach lfewer hours (and are paid
less!!) . I am paralyzed with fear that my school will make us have the
kids take the winter bagrut in spite of (so far) having missed 5 weeks of
school.. Because if we don't, then the entire second semester will be messed
up and of course this also affects our yud aleph students who are to begin
in the spring. As for when we will find time to practice and do the oral
exam, I have NO idea !!
?So for all of you who didn't know this,, please know that many (more and
more) schools have their yud bet students finish in Winter and this year
it's going to be a great challenge !!!


Judith Astary


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