[etni] Fwd: Incomprehensible hogwash
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From: rafitalk <rafitalk@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Incomprehensible hogwash
You have said it yourself!!
"it's a literature exam in English"
NOT an English exam!
It does NOT measure linguistic Or communicative ability!!'
Are we not missing the point here?
I have had mixed results with my classes ranging from the high 90 s to
the low 70s it's the low marks that disturb me not because they are
low- the kid can do the exam again and again and again.
It's the fact that those who have underachieved have really excellent
English but are not the type to take literary analysis in their
stride. They are excellent math or physics students - twiddling around
with inference etc is not their scene.
Speaking and writing excellent well phrased and even erudite English is....
They wouldn't have chosen 5 points literature or five points Gemmarra
Now they are being forced to do so.
And They are being penalized !!
That is the point.....
This is NOT about your English capabilities, it's about towing the
rubric answer to the finishing line ...
What a shambles
Rafi
Bari wrote:
>It's a literature exam in English. Simply being an English speaker has nothing
>to do with getting a good grade on this particular exam. If none of the
>students were getting good grades, I might agree with you, but the fact of the
>matter is that there were many excellent grades on the exam.
I am neither an inspector nor a "Ministry lackey". Neither is Mitzi
nor the teacher who posted that her students had done even better than
she expected on the exam (I don't remember who that was). Is it so
difficult for you to believe that not everyone agrees with you and
that many of those who don't are rank and file teachers like you?
Bari
On Thursday, July 5, 2012, rafitalk wrote:
>
> When a native speaker who has spent the last four years at a high school in
> Miami and was an honor English student receives a grade of 75 there has to be
> something wrong
> This exam or log is not meant to be an indicator of intellectual agility -
> it's an English exam no more no less
> That is our brief...
> We should not become so enamored with our collective egos and remember that
> HOTS is , and will never be , the panacea for an ailing education system.
>
> It is certainly not up to the inspectorate to bully and belittle dissenting
> voices.
>
> We are not the foot soldiers in the battle for self promotion and
> engrandisement.
>
> Can we hear what real people have to say and not the ministry lackeys?
>
> Yes we HAVE read the handbook and yes we HAVE taken the blasted course and
> yes the kids are unable to prove their linguistic ability in a fair and
> uncluttered manner.
>
> The exam and log are crap
> Speak up do... You have nothing to lose but your integrity
>
>
> Rafi
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