[etni] Re: HOTs courses
- From: Veronica Foldes <verfol@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Glenda Sacks <hagal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:14:11 +0300
Dear Glenda,
There seems to be a problem between what Anat Zohar wants done and what is
actually happening in the field. The kind of creative work you mentioned is
exactly the kind of work the students do in their portfolios. That is what I
love about it. If you are interested in seeing some samples of assignments
my students are given, go to my site, veronica.shorturl.com In addition to
the assignments there, I have many combining art and poetry, students
writing poetry based on poems they have learnt and the list goes on and on.
THAT is what I love to teach and my students enjoy learning and discussing.
At any rate, I am still waiting to see what will happen!
And can anyone tell me what happened at the meeting yesterday???
Veronica
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Glenda Sacks <hagal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Veronica,
>
> I agree with you completely. The problem about protesting the new
> literature bagrut is that to many teachers it looks like you are trying to
> duck and dive the work, when in actual fact, you understand how detrimental
> it could be to the teaching of literature. Instead of looking like a good
> educator, you land up looking like a slacker.
>
> Aside from the renumeration and Irgun issue, focusing lessons solely on
> HOTs and LOTs before you even get to the literature is ludicrous.
> Literature teachers use HOTs and Lots anyway in all literature lessons - to
> analyze the text, compare characters, organize story plot, understand
> differing perspectives etc - it is the stuff of literature lessons and now
> to dumb it down to silly excercises that require intelligent 5-point
> students to arrange a list of real and fantasy characters in two different
> columns is laughable -duh!! (this was an excercise given in the teachers
> course this year to teach the HOT skill of classification) One could get
> involved in a totally solipsistic argument about whether Harry Potter is
> more real to kids than Hitler!!
>
> What has this to do with the literary texts??? What has this to do with
> writing essays for logs and answering long questions in the bagrut???? Show
> teachers wonderfully exciting ways to teach the course focusing on writing
> like writing newspaper articles on events in the plot, creating wanted
> posters, board games based on the plot etc.... than these dry and boring
> taxonomies that students are going to learn by rote which is exactly what
> Anat Zohar (the pedagogical director who instigated this whole thing) DOES
> NOT WANT- (watch her interview on you tube.)
>
> Cut and paste the address.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9MeALZBdUk
>
> Glenda Sacks
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Veronica Foldes" <verfol@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Ziona Levi" <z_levi@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <bnirenberg@xxxxxxxxx>; <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 5:18 AM
> Subject: [etni] Re: HOTs courses
>
>
> Ziona, you misunderstand! I DO teach projects AND my schools have had
>> students preparing portfolios in literature even before it became a part
>> of
>> the curriculum. We test them orally and in writing and they do varied
>> assignments. What I protest is going back to the kind of bagrut that does
>> not allow the students to analyze and be creative, not necessarily
>> according
>> to HOTs. If one's class is to do the written F exam,the teachers will have
>> to limit themselves to specific pieces of literature, unlike today where a
>> teacher can suit literature choices to different classes and change the
>> choices from year to year. If the teacher chooses to do the log, it too
>> becomes less interesting and more time-consuming than what we do today. I
>> want us to go forward and not backward. I do not want to be teaching even
>> more topics that students have not yet dealt with in their first language,
>> as I now do when I teach students how to write a project, what plagiarism
>> is
>> etc.I do not know what you are referring to when you ask if I want to
>> teach
>> my students to lie??? But again, I am not discussing the advantages
>> /disadvantages of the new program. I am discussing the fact that yet
>> again,
>> English teachers are being asked to take on even more work, with no
>> compensation. I am stating clearly that if we do not all stand together
>> and
>> refuse to start the new program without financial compensation, we have no
>> right to complain that we are overworked and undercompensated. I hope that
>> clears things up.
>> All the best,
>> Veronica
>>
>> 2009/7/7 Ziona Levi <z_levi@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> How can you instigate such a plan? Don't you see the value of teaching
>>> projects and oral tests? What about them? Are you teaching your students
>>> to
>>> lie?
>>> And why not ban other 'unimportant' time consuming demands ? Let's ban
>>> extensive reading or writing? Why not? Because it is on the written
>>> Bagrut?
>>> ?
>>> Tziona.
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>>> вzвâ??вâ??: Veronica Foldes <verfol@xxxxxxxxx>
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>>> в в.вâ??вâ??: [etni] HOTs courses
>>> вâ??вo: bnirenberg@xxxxxxxxx, etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> > Good evening to Bari and everyone,
>>> > Yes, there are teachers who have already taken the course.
>>> > However, if we
>>> > ALL refuse to teach the new program, then it can not go on. We are
>>> > living in
>>> > a small country. The universities etc will take into account that NO
>>> > students are taking the new F. The students will not suffer if we
>>> > all stick
>>> > together. (BTW, what many teachers did with the projects was to
>>> > tell their
>>> > students to get hold of a project and to be prepared for the exam.
>>> > Theythemselves did not work on the projects. It can be done, if we
>>> > sticktogether.
>>> >
>>> > All the best,
>>> > Veronica
>>> >
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