Hear , hear Nina! By the way, we already tested oral Bagrut in the winter Bagrut and students without projects because of sanctions were tested on literature they had done. I would like to remind everyone that the projects are just supposed to be a springboard for starting a conversation. It is the oral skills of the students we are grading, not the project. So, go ahead and let them tell you about a book they have read or a movie they have seen or a piece of literature they have studied in class. If they can present that and then have you ask them some questions about it, they deserve their 60% project grade - and it can be graded with EXACTLY the same rubric as the project presentation and interaction. As Nina said - we are all colleagues and WE are the ones testing, not the Ministry! Sarah --- On Mon, 8/2/10, Golomb <golomb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Golomb <golomb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [etni] Oral Exam To: "etni" <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Monday, 8 February, 2010, 15:28 If the ministry isn't prepared to honor teachers who are following Irgun instructions, then I propose that we teachers take matters into our own hands. I, for one, WILL NOT penalize a student whose teacher has followed irgun instructions. I will "doctor" the grade so that the students' grade on the interview becomes the whole oral grade. I'm saying this openly and I earnestly urge my fellow teachers to do the same. If the ministry objects, let them take me to court!!!!! I'm prepared to fight for both teachers and students. My students are due to be tested soon. Let any teacher dare fail them because they haven't done projects - I will raise merry hell!!!! Come on, teachers, we are the ones who test, not the ministry!!! Nina ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** ----------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------