If the ministry isn't prepared to honor teachers who are following Irgun instructions, then I propose that we teachers take matters into our own hands. I, for one, WILL NOT penalize a student whose teacher has followed irgun instructions. I will "doctor" the grade so that the students' grade on the interview becomes the whole oral grade. I'm saying this openly and I earnestly urge my fellow teachers to do the same. If the ministry objects, let them take me to court!!!!! I'm prepared to fight for both teachers and students. My students are due to be tested soon. Let any teacher dare fail them because they haven't done projects - I will raise merry hell!!!! Come on, teachers, we are the ones who test, not the ministry!!! Nina ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------