Doug, After exploring a route, double tap near the top left corner of the app screen. This is not a back button, but it will take you back to the previous screen. DJ _____ From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Parisian Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 6:37 PM To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: seeing eye gps improvements I have found, until recently, Google Maps to be quite accessible and once I entered starting and ending points, got clear directions all the way. Recently however, it seems that a Google update has caused problems in that, if I choose to explore a route before a trip, I am unable to find either a "back," "menu," or "close" button to get back to the main screen. Further, in all versions until my recent update, I cannot convince the app that I am a pedestrian. I believe one used to do this after selecting either cycling or transit, I'm thinking probably transit. With the Sindero/TSI offering, I attempted to track a route from my home to another address. The suggested route would take me through intersections which, unless the stars and moon are perfectly aligned, I choose not to take for safety concerns. So, I purposefully whent the "safe" way. True to form, the Sendero offering indicated that it was recalculating route but rather than to give me information from where the Ap said it was recalculating, I received instructions to proceed in the opposite direction to which I was travelling until I reached the point where the Ap had made it's original ignored calculation. This feature has failed for me much more than it has succeeded. Until I can be convinced that some outstanding bugs and/or claims have been rectified, I'll stick to Blindsquare. Blindsquare proves my life-long arguments that one does NOT have to be blind to learn and understand issues and requirements for blind mobility. Truth to tell, I have studiously avoided joining any of our Canadian naval gazing groups; I have received much more insightful help and understanding from my visual friends. Darn, come to think of it, I can't dredge up any blind friends in my mind at present. This could be cause I think of the person first, the so-called disability second. In case I haven't been obvious enough, my most favourite, trusted, and reliable GPS hands down is by extremely far, Blindsquare. Damn, the developer has even offered support and help on this list to the lacking so-called blind-based program. Go figure! On 09/07/2014 4:55 PM, DJ wrote: It is my belief that Sendero put out their gps app because they felt that they could build in some features which many blind indeviduals could use and which weren't already included in the other apps. Another reason they did it was to make money. Don't be fooled. By making the statement which you did below, are you also saying that other blindness related gps apps aren't accessible and that's why they had to do it? As has been stated many times, there are many gps apps which are quite accessible to us blind users and which have no blindness specific features. DJ -----Original Message----- From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Carette Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 8:40 AM To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: seeing eye gps improvements This question seems to be popping up very often lately but here's the way I figure, if Google maps or any other maps were mobile friendly towards the blinded/visual impaired community, then there would be no need for a group like Sendero to put out a blind friendly GPS system. I know there are other apps that can somewhat be useful such as that area GPS but it does not give you point-by-point directions like the Seeingeye GPS. I mean likeam I off the beaten path somewhere? On 7/9/14, Luke French <mailto:nhbostonfan@xxxxxxxxx> <nhbostonfan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I think it will happen but in my case posthumously Luke On Jul 8, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Mike Reiser <mailto:mikereiser08@xxxxxxxxx> <mikereiser08@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I'm going to be the radical one here and say that we should be working to replace the cane or the guide dog. That's just my point of view. MikeSent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Tammy Freitag <mailto:ms.sunflower61@xxxxxxxxx> <ms.sunflower61@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Andi, you're correct. Any GPS is supplemental information. As I read messages, it seems that people expect GPS to be like a magic carpet. Open it up and poof! you're there with absolutely no effort on your part. Awe! if it were so. lol! On 7/8/14, Luke French <mailto:nhbostonfan@xxxxxxxxx> <nhbostonfan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I would like to see someone develop an application that could replace commonsense, the world could use it. Luke On Jul 8, 2014, at 12:33 PM, "Baracco, Andrew W" <mailto:Andrew.Baracco@xxxxxx> <Andrew.Baracco@xxxxxx> wrote: What I was told when I started using GPS products in 2006 was that they are a supplemental information source, and are not meant to replace a cane, dog, our senses, good O and M training, and common sense in general. Andy -----Original Message----- From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Will Walsh Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:05 PM To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [EXTERNAL] [gps-talkusers] Re: seeing eye gps improvements Agree with Brandon 100 percent couldn't have said it better Sent from my iPhone On Jul 7, 2014, at 7:02 PM, brandon armstrong <mailto:baarmstrong37@xxxxxxxxx> <baarmstrong37@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: hello all, I want to weigh in on what mike may said here. you love foursquare, my point here, please get google maps in the next version of this app, like we’ve been asking you to do sense 1.0 and call it a day. do you know, that we got a bypass here in my location, after the bypass opened, with in two days of that road opening, google maps starts telling me turn right on to state highway 9, where your app and some others keep telling me to continue on to 190. I’m sorry, but for almost real time updated map info google maps will be your best way to go verses tom tom and map quest. brandonTo change your email settings (unsubscribe, digest only, or vacation mode): http://senderogroup.com/social_media/email.htm Additionally, to unsubscribe send an email to gps-talkusers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject. To change your email settings (unsubscribe, digest only, or vacation mode): http://senderogroup.com/social_media/email.htm Additionally, to unsubscribe send an email to gps-talkusers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject. 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