I found some dog barks that sound quite good. What's nice is you can hear the relative distance between different dogs. We've wondered hopelessly off topic however. Contact me off list if you wish to pick this up.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:50 AM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The mini guide
I am using stereo headphones plugged into my speakers, which are in turn being given audio from an integrated, generic sound card. I found a helicopter recording that tried to replicate going behind me, but it just sounded kind of odd during that part and there was a sort of stumble in the sound as it passed "directly behind me".Have a great day, Alex----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date sent: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:03:04 -0700 Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The mini guideI haven't seen many consumer solutions that do much better thanyou suggest.Specialized installations and recordings though I've heard ofgood enoughquality they can trick the ear nicely. I used to have a matchstrike thatwas frightening it sounded so real. If I find it I'll forward toyou offlist. I'm also assuming you're using good quality listeninghardware.----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxx To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 8:36 AM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The mini guideI just found some samples of it online, and they sounded likestereorecordings that were a bit muffled. I am not sure I see thedifference;the explanation made sense, but the playback seems just likestereo exceptat a worse quality.Have a great day, Alex----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date sent: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:13:10 -0700 Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The mini guideIt's more complex on the record side. Playback usually can bedone withstandard stereo two channel systems. (that's sort of the pointto generate3D with 2 channels) SRS is another method that's somewhatsuccessful.----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxx To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 7:42 AM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The mini guideHow much equipment does it take to make this, or are you talkingaboutjust stereo balance? Sound games give you sounds of enemies andobstaclesat any point in a 180 degree arc in front of you from ear toear. Is thisthe same thing, or a lot more complex?Have a great day, Alex----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date sent: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:29:54 -0700 Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The mini guideThe brain works holographically. Holographic vision uses lasersand beamsplitters one reference beam and a carrier that when theyinterfeartranslate that phase information in to 3D images in space.(Think rides atamusement parks with ghosts and such or that mark on your ID) Sound uses different recording processes to simulate 3D soundwith afinite number of transducers mainly headphones. (I've seen itdone fairlywell with one audio channel) There are also exotic ultrasonicsoundcompression systems but basically the game is to trick the ear into thinkit's hearing a point source somewhere in 3d space, for example myvoice outin front of you or the voice of your GPS device in 3d space inthe directionyou need to turn. A good example of this would be the PresidentLincolninteractive show at the house of mouse.;) The fly flying aroundyour headis shockingly good, to the point where I was tricked in tofeeling the airfrom it's wings as it lighted on the side of my face. Reallyreallyconvincing!----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxx To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 6:48 AM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The mini guideAnd holographic sound processing would be... Sounds cool, but Ihave noclue what it is.Have a great day, Alex----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date sent: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:28:15 -0700 Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The mini guideI'd actually like to do something with holographic soundprocessing butagain usability is the thing. I keep thinking though thatglasses are agood platform that hasn't been explored enough. Oh and I'm withyoualthough I'd rather have a digital interface so I could plug indevices,mixing data and displays over environmental vision for example.Stem cellswould rock though, I'm there for either option. As I've said inthe past,my grey matter is available for really cheap for anyone with adecent testplan.;)----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Wright" <gymnastdave@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 6:17 AM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The mini guideI'm trying to imagine something vibrating on my head as I'mwearingglasses. Kind of reminds me of the FSRS. You can read moreabout it at:http://www.eyeplus2.com/FRSIndex.htmlFrom experience, this system is not really all that conducive totravel.As for having something constantly beeping in my ear, that woulddrive meinsane. Imagine listening to something that sounds like a truckbackingupeverytime you were approaching somethihng. This reminds me ofthe wholeconcept of seeing with sound, which to me while seemingly a goodidea,really isn't conducive to travel either. I thiknk I'll waituntil stemcell technology gets good enough for me to regrow my eyesthanks. Untilthen, I'll just rely on my cane skills and my awesome senderoGPS.Best Regards: David WrightEmail: dwrigh6@xxxxxxx Mobile: 832-518-0707http://www.knfbreader.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:05 AM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The mini guideI wish you could mount that on glasses! Have them either vibrateor beepin your ear. Leave the hands out of it!----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxx To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:44 PM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: The mini guideQuestion: how can you operate a cane/dog, gps/bn, and mini guideall atthe same time? I had a hard enough time with just the cane andminiguide, but I was amazed when I had an opportunity to use themini guide(a device like it anyway). I avoided countless collisions withpeoplein a very crowded school that my cane would not have picked upbecauseof how short I have to hold the cane in those crowds. I havejust nothad the money to get a mini guide, plus I have found my cane tobe quitesufficient... until I run into something (figuratively andliterally)where I realize that one of those magic Milky Way bars (asanotherposter put it) would have been quite handy. Also, for those interested, the device sends out an ultrasonicbeam fromone of the two front ports. The other port senses thereflection ofthat beam and sends the strength of the reflection to aprocessor whichtells the vibrating motor how fast to go (in my case it usedpulses; thecloser together the pulses were, the closer the object).Have a great day, Alex----- Original Message ----- From: Wendy Slominsky <wendyslominsky@xxxxxxxxxxx To: "gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date sent: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:57:52 -0400 Subject: [gps-talkusers] The mini guideThis is what I use as well. The GPS can only be as accurate asishumanly possible and it will not help you find anything that specifically. The mini guide has saved me many times trying tofindpoles, benches etc. It's thankfully not too expensive. www.senderogroup.com Good luck!