[gps-talkusers] Re: Using Seeing Eye GPS as a Pedestrian
- From: Sofia Gallo <sofiagallo13@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 22:12:24 -0400
I did notice some of the routes had a lot of turns, but that doesn't bother me.
I have had trouble figuring out if I should turn before or after crossing a
street. For example, if the GPS says 'turn right on 74th street" in nyc, you
couldd turn on that street and then cross or you could cross thann turn right.
These are different sides of a block, vut the street mame is the same.
Any tips on how to deal with this? Has anyone else experienced this?
(i know GPS isn't perfect so this may be one of those times when making an
educated guess may be the only optiom).
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> On Jul 10, 2014, at 9:17 PM, "Armando Maldonado"
> <armando.maldonado0767@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Well said Mike, it's always good to have both the new and the old combined
> when it comes to travel. I try not to rely on such but whenever I travel I
> would do the Virtual explore route and maybe turn on the GPS if I feel I am
> lost, just for orientation purposes only.
>
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> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael May
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 6:13 PM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Using Seeing Eye GPS as a Pedestrian
>
> Kelly,
>
> Here is how it works. The map data is structured such that each street is
> classified by the map data provider such as residential, arterial, highway
> and so forth. The route calculation then uses those classifications to figure
> out pedestrian verses a vehicle route. I have found situations where a route
> wasn't used as pedestrian because the road was considered a highway, like
> highway 99, which would be a highway outside of town but it is Main street in
> town and quite crossable. Other times, the reverse is true.
>
> If you have any of the other Sendero products, you can see the classification
> of every street. Sendero has no control over these classifications. Hence all
> the disclaimers that tell you not to trust the data or the GPS signals.
> Proceed with caution!
>
> There are stories about how someone drove their car into a river because the
> GPS directed them that way. I hope most users are more skeptical than that
> and use the technology with common sense.
>
> Mike
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> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:42 PM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Using Seeing Eye GPS as a Pedestrian
>
> I’m glad this topic was raised. Living in a big city that strictly follows a
> grid street design, I have noticed that the Seeing Eye GPS app suggests
> pedestrian routes that an independent blind traveler would never take. It
> seems the Seeing Eye app offers the shortest route possible. This often
> results in routes that take many turns or ones that require the blind
> traveler crossing streets without traffic controlled intersections. For
> example, I was walking from the Rockwell brown Line L station in Chicago at
> 4648 N. Rockwell to the Lincoln Square location of the Crossfit Defined gym
> at 2750 W.
> Lawrence. The Seeing Eye app wanted me to go north to Leland, west to Talman
> and then cross busy Lawrence. There is no traffic light at Talman. Instead,
> I chose to go on Rockwell north to Lawrence and cross at the traffic light
> and then go west to my address. The entire trip is only three tenths of a
> mile.
>
> A similar situation happened this week when I wanted to travel from my office
> at Washington and Dearborn in Chicago to the Industrious shared work space at
> 320 W. Ohio. This is a distance of one mile. The seeing Eye app told me to
> go north on Dearborn to Wacker Drive, go one block west to Clark street then
> go north to Hubbard Street. On Hubbard, I would walk just a few hundred feet
> to Wells Street. Then, the app wanted me to go north on Wells Street and
> then to take a left turn on Grand Avenue. I then needed to take a right turn
> when I reached Franklin Street so I was going north again. Then only after
> 290 feet, I finally turn left going west on Ohio street to my address.
> An independent blind traveler would simply go north on Dearborn or Clark to
> Ohio and then west to the address.
>
> These routes were created using Tom tom maps. It is perplexing to me why a
> travel aid for the blind would create such complex pedestrian routes going
> short distances. There are full sidewalks on Rockwell and all the way up
> Dearborn and Clark streets. The many turns and avoidance of traffic lights
> does not make sense. With Apple maps, the end user is often given three
> choices of routes to take, each with a different set of priorities. One route
> may favor major streets.
> Another may have the shortest distance or travel time. Another may offer the
> fewest turns. With the Seeing Eye, GPS the end user has no choice.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
>
>> On 7/8/14, Sofia Gallo <sofiagallo13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> So I've noticed that most of the threads discuss using GPS while in a
>> car or paratransit service, so I figured I would start a discussion
>> for those who use the app mostly for walking routes.
>>
>> Any experiences, tips or suggestions to share?
>>
>> I recently started using the app in NYC, and it is extremely accurate,
>> even with the tall buildings.
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