Mike,
Frankly, I am appalled that you, a GPS long-time user and evangelist, would
even begin to praise what GoodMaps is or does. The outdoor navigation side
of the app is shockingly bad and lacks many features both on iOS and
Android. It isn't even close to what NE was, and anyone who did use NE or
even the Trekker product would agree if they did anything other than walk
outside to their mailbox, and maybe even then, too. By the way, I did reach
out to GoodMaps. I requested a sit-down on a podcast which reaches over
3,000 plays monthly. I provided lots of feedback. I requested the ability
to test beta versions and provide additional feedback that way. And, like
Gary, I would have to say that the feedback has fallen on Deaf ears.
As for the map provider not being available, I think this is a Red herring.
Isn't that exactly what the NE Online version set out to provide? In fact,
the original NE did provide alternate map sources.
I believe strongly that this was purely a monetary decision, which makes me
less likely to trust APH and GoodMaps moving forward, even if the product
was made into an excellent navigational aid, which at this point, isn't
likely any time soon. There is quite a bit of money to be had to improve
in-door navigation, and even though most users aren't impacted in any way
by a few buildings here and there in one or two cities being lit up with
in-door support, the money is there, whereas there probably isn't as much
to be had for the outdoor space. NE provided features that no other app can
touch, and instead of listening to the outcry from so many users that I
know provided feedback, this decision was made without regard to those
customers who did pay for the app and who probably would continue paying
for the app in the form of a subscription if it were continued and
maintained, even at a basic level, as, in the outdoor space, nothing else
touched NE. Instead, the decision was made, and the product killed off,
with a new one spun up that is, frankly, garbage in pretty much every
imaginable way, outdoors at least, and as I said above, the indoor space is
irrelevant for most people as it simply does not scale in any meaningful
way, and it still doesn't provide product accessibility within the indoor
space. And, instead of simply leaving the app up on the app store,
something which probably doesn't take that much effort to do, and stating
that support is no longer being offered, it was pulled from the app stores.
Now why would that be the case?
Frankly, Mike, I think that you should be more honest with the users, and
you should not continue to parrot the same babble and garbage that is
simply factually untrue, as we both know. Admit that this was a financial
decision, and move on. Users might appreciate the transparency a bit more
than hearing that the cause is because of map providers. Lazarillo shits
all over GoodMaps and will likely continue to do so as long as GM continues
on its current trajectory, and it is nowhere near as good as NE was.
I do hope that, for iPhone users, NE continues to exist in your purchase
history so that you can download it after a reinstall if you had purchased
it. The Android version at least is continuing to work, for now, and as
long as it does, I will continue to use it in the absence of an alternative.
On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 8:25 AM Michael May <mm@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Nearby users, as you may have heard, there were things thing under the
hood that necessitated a complete revamping of the program. Software is
made up of licensed modules and the map engine many of us used in our
products over the years was discontinued. You may have noticed that
HumanWare changed Trekker to Here Maps related to this same issue.
Certainly use what you are familiar with and like. It would be helpful to
submit feature requests to Support@xxxxxxxxxxxx so your favorite features
can find their way into GoodMaps Explore.
Thanks,
Mike
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From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of gary-melconian
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 5:14 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: nearby Explorer
Do agree with you one thousand percent. That’s why I tell the developers
just bring back near by apis into good maps and lets call it a day. Its
been a good app and has served the needs of both communities android and
apple.
-----Original Message-----
From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of jason thompson
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2021 11:14 AM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: nearby Explorer
Nearby Explorer had a great deal more features than this Good Maps
Explore.
I used to like Seeing Eye GPS until Aira bought it. No more yearly
subscrition and no recent updates.
jason Thompson
On May 15, 2021, at 11:20 AM, gary-melconian <gmelconian619@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
That's true. Still using near by on my android device.will continue to
use it till it dies. Still think that the good maps developers should have
taken the near by api's and built it into the added features and
functionality of good maps. That has been the opinion and point of view of
lots of near by users and don’t think ha twill change till good maps has a
better implementation and feature set of what near by had.
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