[jawsscripts] Re: New System Beeps in FSDN

  • From: "Donald Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 07:48:39 -0400

This only happened after the 10.0.1139 update and continues with the 
10.0.1142 update.  Perhaps you are wise not too update yet.  I have seen 
some improvements in responsiveness with these releases.  Unfortunately, I 
have also experienced some serious stability issues!  JAWS simply crashes 
without any apparent reason at least once a day.  Sometimes, the only 
application I have running is Windows Mail.  Due to the timing, I wonder if 
FS has incorporated some fundamental architectural  change required or 
desired to support 64 bit Windows?

Don Marang


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "E.J. Zufelt" <lists@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 7:05 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: New System Beeps in FSDN


> Good morning,
>
> Using JAWS 10 (no updates) Windos XP Pro SP2, no beeps in FSDN or any
> other CHM documents.
>
> Strange,
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> On 15-Apr-09, at 7:55 AM, Donald Marang wrote:
>
>> I don't think any of these applications use HTML.  But I also have
>> Auto
>> Forms mode turned off by default.
>>
>> The sound I am hearing is the unimaginative default system error
>> sound.  It
>> is the same sound created by the JAWS Beep function.  I asked John
>> Carson at
>> FS if it may have been a debug line of code inadvertently left into
>> the
>> code.
>>
>> I have a feeling that it has something to do with JAWS trying to use
>> MSAA to
>> get information about the list even though the application was not
>> actually
>> developed to use MSAA.
>>
>> Has anyone else heard these beeps in FSDN or any other application.
>> At
>> least I have found an example that you guys and FS should be able to
>> reproduce.
>>
>> Don Marang
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Christopher Chaltain" <cchaltain@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 4:28 AM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: New System Beeps in FSDN
>>
>>
>>> I'm not familiar with those applications, but I wonder if you're
>>> running
>>> into autoforms mode somehow. If they're using a web browser like
>>> front
>>> end then the virtual cursor may be in effect and autoforms may be in
>>> play. I'm not running JFW 10 on this system, but you might want to
>>> try
>>> turning that off in your JFW settings and see if that changes your
>>> JFW
>>> behavior.
>>>
>>> Donald Marang wrote:
>>>> With the last two updates of JAWS 10, I have seen a change in my
>>>> scripts
>>>> for my Verizon program.  When I move through the list view with up
>>>> and
>>>> down arrows, I hear a system beep!  The same scripts in JAWS 9 do
>>>> not
>>>> make that noise.  I have asked FS to look into this, but I have
>>>> not heard
>>>> back yet.
>>>> In the last two weeks I think I have seen similar things happening
>>>> in
>>>> other applications.  I was checking out Snapshot, a disk image
>>>> backup
>>>> program from drivesnapshot.de.  It has a list view for selecting the
>>>> drive to back up that beeps in JAWS 10 but not in JAWS 9.
>>>>
>>>> Most notably, I have noticed extra system beeps in the FSDN help
>>>> file as
>>>> well!  I have always heard a beep when I type in a keyword to
>>>> search and
>>>> press Enter.  But now in JAWS 10 I hear beeps as I arrow up and
>>>> down in
>>>> the list of search results as well!  This is the list that I land on
>>>> after typing in a keyword, pressing Enter, and then hitting Tab
>>>> twice.
>>>> Again, this only happens to me in JAWS 10, not JAWS 9.  Can someone
>>>> verify if this is truly a change in JAWS 10?  If no one else has
>>>> this
>>>> problem, is there a JAWS setting that I might have screwed up?  .
>>>>
>>>> Don Marang
>>>>
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