[jawsscripts] Re: testing for element attributes from whence jaws derives it's labels.
- From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 10:26:15 +1100
Yep, thanks for that John.
I'm Always a look out if it's an alt attribute, coz they show up in the
elements listing there under jaws+shift+F1.
but I'm particularly interested to get more familiar with where Jaws derives
it's default labels for button elements at this point.
This particular developer has shoved in some labels for some of the buttons,
and just blatently left a whole bunch unlabelled! And I wish to know where
He's likely to have put those, that was all.
Plus for the iTunes prob described earlier.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 12:24 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: testing for element attributes from whence jaws
derives it's labels.
> Sometimes it is not a button. Sometimes it is the alt attribute that it is
> reading off a graphic.
> HTH
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Geoff Chapman
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:30 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] testing for element attributes from whence jaws
> derives it's labels.
>
> I hope the list will forgive the liberty of reposting a message I just
> posted, but under a less relevant and kinda dumber subject heading, I
> just
> thought I might get more hits on it if I did so with a more relevant one.
>
> Yep, Thanks for the headsup Jim re insuring one isn't in forms mode when
> one
> hits the jaws+Shift+F1 key for the element attributes listing dialog.
>
> Even after examining that dump though,
> I found It just didn't tell me though where jaws was brabbing the label
> from. I.e. it must be that at least the first couple of these attributes
> Scott mentions from the below, i.e. ARIA-LABEL, TITLE, ALT, VALUE, and
> intra-tag text content, are simply not all shown in that insert+Shift+f1
> dumping?
> I know that Alt usually is, if there is one, but I've never seen mention
> of
> aria attributes in there for example?
> I think I was using jaws 14 to check this???
>
> Hmmm.
>
> As another example I'd simply love to probe to the bottom of, so I could
> tell someone whose now working at apple who., might, actually care, and
> whom I know could possibly get this reversed/changed, if I was able to
> tell
> him precisely into what particular attribute, labels need to be optimally
> stuffed for jaws to just naturally announce them by default, Which has
> driven me crazy for a while now.
> Coz in iTunes store now, every song in any listing, always contains an
> "unlabelled 0" button now, which is it's play button, above the song name.
> Which means you hit b for button, to jump to the next song, then you
> gotta
> arrow down in virtual land, to hear that song's name, then arrow up again
> to
> the unlabelled 0 button in order to hit spacebar on it to play the
> preview.
> However in versions of iTunes gone by, there was a far lovelier time,
> where
> the song name was auto-embedded into that button label. Meaning you could
> far more elegantly and efficiently, hit b to navigate between the songs in
> a
> given list, hear their titles immediately, and hit space if you wanted to
> preview them.
> many buttons in Flash movies too, I notice have this problem, of being
> Unlabelled followed by a number. And I'd just love to be able to tell
> developers, exactly where to stick those labels, to have them readily
> anounced by jaws.
> if anyone has any further thoughts on this, I'd love to hear them.
>
> From: "Homme, James" <
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <
> jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:34 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Dur I found it, it's going off the Tab Button
> ID,
> was Html elements and jaws custom labels, what's the point of connection?
>
>> Hi Geoff,
>> Make sure you are not in Forms mode. Hit SHIFT+INSERT+F1 to get a dump
>> in the Virtual Buffer that starts with the inner most tag, tells all
>> the attributes, and goes outward all of the way to the document root.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:
> jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Geoff Chapman
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:47 PM
>> To:
> jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Dur I found it, it's going off the Tab Button
>> ID, was Html elements and jaws custom labels, what's the point of
> connection?
>>
>> Ok a quick actual look in the DomainName.JSI file showed me the
>> connection point, bang! Goodness it's amazing what a bit of lateral
>> thinking can do, if Only I had more of that by default! :) Still
>> clueless at this point re the second component of my previous though.
>> as per where jaws derives any given default name it announces for
>> buttons.
>>
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