The ducting effect along the Southern California/Northern Baja coast is well known. There's a mountaintop just north of Ensenada (90 miles south of the border) where people with analog cell phones can get native LA analog cellular (no roaming.) John Willkie _____ From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Aitken Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 11:00 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: 200 Mile 8VSB Reception Ducting... an Anomaly. Well understood over some bodies of water (some countries have a schedule, take Kuwait for example...from the island of Failaka broadcasting to Iraq!). Pine needles as big as a UHF wavelength???? 15-25"???? Where is this place??? Mark the Mark that can often differentiate the norm from the rare John Willkie wrote: At the risk of putting Bob Miller back in the hospital . (try this with low power COFDM) http://www.flickr.com/photos/docsearls/342324583/in/set-72157594453965824/ (click next to advance) (Cadged from Bob Gonsett's newsletter) John Willkie P.S. Yet someone else who doesn't know that "OTA is dead" and "8-VSB doesn't work." When will they ever learn?