>I'd like to point this out once again: Had we had the "out" of being >able to lower the bit rate to achieve these results, it is unlikely >that you would have seen 3.3 b/s/Hz in this indoor environment. And I'd like to point out that the "out" you describe was just announced by the ATSC a couple days ago: http://www.atsc.org/news_information/press/2004/PR_EVSB.htm As an HDTV owner and enthusiast, I sincerely hope that not a single kilobit of E-VSB data will ever be transmitted by any DTV broadcaster! E-VSB is a really brutal trade of primary stream data rate, just to improve C/N threshold on a secondary stream. -- Frank ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.