Eory Frank wrote: > >I'd like to point this out once again: Had we had the "out" of being > >able to lower the bit rate to achieve these results, it is unlikely > >that you would have seen 3.3 b/s/Hz in this indoor environment. > > And I'd like to point out that the "out" you describe was > just announced by the ATSC a couple days ago: > > http://www.atsc.org/news_information/press/2004/PR_EVSB.htm > > As an HDTV owner and enthusiast, I sincerely hope that not a > single kilobit of E-VSB data will ever be transmitted by any > DTV broadcaster! E-VSB is a really brutal trade of primary > stream data rate, just to improve C/N threshold on a secondary stream. Your couldn't have echoed my thoughts any better, Frank. I never believed E-VSB was worth pursuing, and fortunately, pragmatic companies like Lynx (ex-Zenith engineers) and LG/Zenith didn't think so either. They didn't rely on E-VSB, but rather on being more innovative with what they had already. There are even better ways of achieving lower C/N ratios for secondary streams than the meat cleaver approach of fussing with the modulation of symbols. We went through that some time ago. E-VSB was an afterthought for ATSC, and hopefully, it will remain in the sidelines. The best aspect of that E-VSB effort, in my opinion, was the realization by the ATSC that indoor reception for DTV was a requirement, not just some catch as catch can capability that the majority of DTT users would never be able to benefit from. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.