Doug McDonald wrote: > The 3dB or 0.6 DB preamp is to amplify the signal > without adding noise. TV sets and STBs have crappy > 6 dB or 8 dB preamps. In the far field you need a > better one. Cable length does not matter much, > since you need the good preamp even if the cable > length is five feet. I think we are talking about different things. When you say 0.6 dB or 3 dB, you are talking about a noise figure. Instead, the previous mention of 3 dB was an attempt to compensate for the 3 dB deficit in C/N margin of COFDM, compared with 8-VSB, in gaussian channels. So it was 3dB of gain. At least, that's how I understood it. But the gain provided by an antenna amp amplifies everything arriving at the antenna, signal and noise. In terms addressing the C/N threshold problem specifically, the antenna amp's contribution is to make all noise sources and losses downstream of the antenna as close to insignificant as possible. But it can't do a thing to improve the SNR received by the antenna itself. This effect is really obvious in my own setup. In the past, for various reasons, I had to split my antenna signal more ways to feed all the separate boxes I used to have. The antenna amp improved the signal significantly. As I cut down on the splits, e.g. no more VHF/UHF splitters at each appliance, no separate hifi TV audio tuner, the beneficial effect of the antenna amp has diminished. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.