John Shutt wrote: > The distance reception demonstrations done by Sinclair > in Baltimore in 1999 showed NO difference in far field > reception between the two. The theortical 4 dB did not > show up in practice. That's simply not true, John. Not even back when the 8-VSB receivers were so questionable, what with real-only equalizers and all the rest. Here is the authoritative source, not an anecdotal derivative. This is from 30 September 1999: http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/Documents/reports/dtvr eprt.txt "Sinclair indicates that the purpose of its 'far field,' i.e., beyond 30 miles, testing was to try to determine if a meaningful difference in performance could be observed due to the differences between 8-VAB and COFDM in threshold carrier-to-noise (C/N) ratio needed for acquisition of service. It states that while there is a 4 dB difference in the theoretical C/N performance between of the two systems in favor of 8-VSB, the average daily calibration threshold difference between the 8-VSB and COFDM receivers was 3.28 dB and that in the field this difference shrank to 2 dB. Sinclair suggests that this may be due to the effect of real world impairments that add to the theoretical 'gaussian' channel values." Now, indoor reception is no longer a problem, not even with my Digital Stream box, and dynamic echo tolerance with the better demods is getting to be quite good. If only these solutions would become readily available on store shelves. OTA consumers want the good stuff, and would really love it if broadcasters would focus on their DTT tier. We don't need to play footsoldier for different standards lobbies. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.