At 10:57 AM -0700 10/18/05, dan.grimes@xxxxxxxx wrote: >Now my point is this: lets stop forcing a faulty progression and actually >progress, rather than digress. We need to be focussing on fixing >distribution and transmission so that this digital conversion actually >results in better pictures for all. It is a waste of all our efforts and >resources to transition to digital if we don't get a better benefit from >it. There is nothing faulty about the transmission systems for DTV content, unless you consider their ability to correct lost packet errors faulty [note: the ability to receive some forms of DTV transmission may be less desirable than others, but this has noting to do with delivered picture quality, assuming a receiver has an adequate link budget]. Simply stated, the problem is that the available video compression technology is being misused. For almost every distribution media the system operators are trying to squeeze too much content into too little bandwidth. This is even true for OTA broadcasters, as 19.3 Mbps is barely adequate for low stress HD content, and begins to show problems with high stress HD content. If you add multicasting into the equation, something has to give, and picture quality is the victim. There is one distribution medium that is working hard to make video quality as good as is possible given the restrictions of their "pipe." That would be DVDs where the content authors have taken the time to optimize the encoding of the source. Anything that is real-time tends to suffer when encoded due to lack of sufficient headroom to handle peak bit rate requirements, and the limitations of real-time encoders that may not be able to provide the best predictions due to lack of time to fully run the block matching algorithms. All of this "may" improve as compression algorithms evolve, however, the trend seems to be to squeeze harder rather than maintaining the bit rate to improve image quality when new encoders are deployed. It's all about keeping the quality JUST above the threshold where people will complain. Unfortunately there is no TECHNICAL fix for this problem. It is a business problem that is related to maximizing the bottom line. I am hopeful that someday, content producers will start holding the distribution folks feet to the fire. The RIGHT way to solve this problem is for the content producer to handle the video encoding, to assure that the image quality is at the level they expect. THEN, they must demand - via their distribution contracts - that the video files be delivered as provided - NO RECOMPRESSION OR GROOMING TO REDUCE THE BIT RATES. Ultimately, I think this may turn out to be one of the big advantages of file based downloads of TV content versus systems that stream dozens or hundreds of channels. If the quality of downloads is consistently higher than the streaming services, this may provide yet another incentive for people to move to download services. This will be especially true if we move to ala carte purchasing, where you pay only for the programs you download - at that point people will be turned off if the quality is not adequate for the price. The only other alternative is to legislate picture quality, and that's a sure bet to make things worse. The marketplace can deal with this issue. Regards Craig ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.