Cliff Benham wrote: > After 40 plus years in broadcast engineering I can > assure you it is impossible to judge the performance of > *anything* by it's spec sheet or sales brochure. Hmmm. Since all I have done is quote directly out of CRC test results, and you quoted my post, am I to conclude that the Communications Research Centre of Canada in fact only writes sales brochures? > Direct comparison under identical test conditions is the > *only* way to know which device works best. Not wanting to sound overly pedantic here, but ... When an engineer designs something, he has to use both measurements and real-world tests. The measurements are needed to associate behavior in the real world with specific aspects of the design. It is only with these measurements, and associated real-world tests, that an engineer can go back and tweak the design in a attempt to affect real-world behavior. Otherwise, he's just shooting in the dark. The example of the comparative results of the newer receivers in Mark Schubin's apartment are a good case in point. The one which was most successful was one that did not measure best in equalizer performance, with respect to both static or dynamic echo. This leads to the conclusion, at least in *that* site, that equalizer performance was adequate "as is" with the LG, and that it must have been other aspects of the design which made it particularly successful. This conclusion was further supported by the results with the LG clones, which used the same equalizer as the LG prototype and yet got results more similar to those of the other, less successful contestants. Good, not great. Furthermore: The LG did not test as well as A/74 guidelines. Therefore, one can conclude that A/74 guidelines with respect to echo tolerance *per se* are probably more than adequate, but that A/74 guidelines *may* not adequately address other aspects of receiver design. And that these other aspects have an important impact on real world performance. This was the gist of the post you quoted. Sales brochures have never been the issue in any of this, at least not from my posts. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.