Kon: "The difference between you and me is that you [Craig] are a complete Apple fanboy, incapable of objectively discussing Apple and its competitors. I don't have that problem (on my desk I have two ipads, three iphone4s, two n900s, an android tablet and a nokia e7)." Dan: "This quote is a brilliant example of what is wrong with our media distribution technologies!" Kon: "...Who's fault was it? The typical excuse: 'it's adobe's job to do this' 'it's the handset manufacturer's job to do this'..." Cliff: "Until there can be universal agreement on how best to accomplish a given technical process, the world is doomed to having millions of "standards", none of which is compatible with the others. Kon: "For streaming media this has largely been eliminated by a few vendors. I'll mention Wowza since I make use of it and we use it in clusters to provide video and audio streaming to mobile CDN customers... "That way you target all the major handset manufacturers without requiring a dozen different files of the same video, and now you only have to worry about how do present the media on the handset." So the point I was making when I said "what is wrong" is that one can get video to multiple devices (computers, gaming, handhelds, etc.) by doing things a few ways: 1. Transcode it into a bunch of different file types and have the customer pick. 2. Pay a bunch of money to a service that can transcode and serve it, for which there are only a few. They know it and make you pay the premium. 3. Be a software engineer with some very special knowledge (like Kon) to build your website and delivery platforms. And each of those solve your problem for today, for tomorrow it will all change! I suppose it needs to be this way and always will, lest someone get more money than someone else. Dan