[opendtv] Re: TV Technology: Netflix Users Watch 10 TV Shows a Week
- From: Craig Birkmaier <brewmastercraig@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2015 08:11:38 -0500
On Nov 6, 2015, at 8:10 PM, Manfredi, Albert E <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Craig Birkmaier wrote:
You have completely lost track of the tread.
Hardly. You can stop broadcasting TV in the old-fashioned way, and distribute
the content via IP unicast and multicast, using standards that already exist
and are already deployed, to consumer devices that already exist and are
already deployed. Yes, the more luddite households may not have these in
place yet, but all is available, unwalled, from third party vendors, at
affordable prices, and has been for a good number of years. Didn't you
already know this?
This is an absurd response. The discussion was about broadcasting and how to
upgrade that service versus simply eliminating the service.
Clearly TV over broadband is a viable alternative for the limited number of
homes that now rely on antennas, although a significant portion of these homes
may not be able to afford broadband.
And when you consider the number of homes that get linear TV service from the
MVPDs, it is still not possible to move all TV delivery to the Internet. The
cabled systems need several significant upgrades and then you need to
accommodate more that 35 million homes that get TV from the DBS services.
The required infrastructure is not in place and will not be for a number of
years. And with Title II regulation, the rate of broadband deployment is
declining.
On the other hand, when you use your PC to watch TV you are
typically using other standards that are not compatible with
the ATSC tuner in your TV or most cable STBs.
Wow, what a show stopper. I must be a genius. I've been doing this for years,
before Craig informed me that it can't be done.
Give it up Bert. You are arguing from both sides of your mouth. Both cable and
broadcast are constrained by legacy technology that is in more than 100 million
homes in the U.S. The DBS systems have deployed h.264 out of necessity, but
these systems are still proprietary, not an open extensible architecture like a
PC or a Roku box.
Obviously not standards are equal. The open extensible approach has enabled you
to watch TV over the Internet. Even you are no longer using that built in ATSC
tuner that you championed in a former life.
The global cable industry is not about to obsolete their installed
base of MPEG-2 STBs.
Consumers are already doing this, Craig. Most people do not obsess about what
their cable company might prefer, as you seem to do.
The global cable industry has hundreds of millions of customers using this
legacy technology Bert. Yes many consumers are using the new standards
promulgated via the Internet, but most are ALSO using FOTA or a MVPD service as
well. The number of home that rely only on the Internet for TV remains VERY
small.
When I asked: "How do we obsolete broadcast TV in the U.S., I was
talking about the installed base of ATSC capable TVs.
I hope that was answered. The installed base of TVs is still used, with
either a box (PC, laptop, streaming box, game console) connected to it, or
using the TV's own built-in IP front end, if so equipped. As a huge number of
households is ALREADY doing, using the broadband connection they already have.
So your answer is just shut down broadcast TV in the U.S. - obviously there is
no good reason for ATSC 3.0 or continuing to waste spectrum on FOTA TV...
Right?
So you are now paying for all of these services?
Have you ever heard of ad-supported TV, Craig? So, add to that list,
hulu.com, cbs.com, abc.com, nbc.com, wwitv.com, and on and on and on.
Thank you for making my point!
You get what you don't have to pay for.
Regards
Craig
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