[vicsireland] Re: Jaws not to speak everypunctuation!

  • From: "Tim Culhane" <tim.culhane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 09:13:08 +0100

Hi Tony,

If you read  the line character by character  you will hear all the
punctuation ..  Assuming you know it is there to start with!

Tim



-----Original Message-----
From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tony Sweeney
Sent: 27 May 2006 20:16
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Jaws not to speak everypunctuation!


    Hi Tim
Thanks for clarifying that for me.
As we all well know punctuation sometimes can make a big difference to the
interpretation of  a script and  one would wish to be careful in that
regard, of course, but some punctuation in my opinion can b a little OTT,
and is best silenced! One supplementary if I may? Should you silence a
particular punctuation such as a full stop for example, is there a way of
quickly getting Jaws to speak that full stop such as with a web address,
without having to go in to the Jaws manager? All the best Tony Sweeney.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Culhane" <tim.culhane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 3:20 PM
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Jaws not to speak everypunctuation!


Hi Tony,

Yes,  you can specify at which level of punctuation you wish individual
punctuation symbols to be spoken at.


Remember that If you set the comma to be spoken at level most, then it will
be spoken at level most and above, i.e.   Level all as well.

I would  let the punctuation be controlled by jaws, unless your synthesiser
has some oddities which it uses in punctuation.  Most people use eloquence,
and  letting jaws look  after punctuation  in this  case works fine.

Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tony Sweeney
Sent: 25 May 2006 15:16
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Jaws not to speak everypunctuation!


    Hi Tim
 Well just a quick Munster shout on the matter, then!
Firstly, I will need to braille out those very comprehensive instructions
indeed before setting about customising. It may be obvious but could I
clarify, that you can adjust individual punctuation to one's own
requirements, such as none or all? Should that be so it would indeed be
great and fully solve that problem for me!  Can you have your settings
controlled by whichever you want, such as Jaws or the synthesizer or both?
You know I'm glad that the weekend is almost upon us, as I'm sure you all
are at this stage. Many thanks indeed, again for that very detailed
response. All the best Tony Sweeney.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Culhane" <tim.culhane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:34 AM
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Jaws not to speak everypunctuation!


Hi Tony,

You need to change the punctuation settings  to a level which you feel
comfortable with.

The levels  are none, some,  most and all.

Where none corresponds to no punctuation being spoken at all, and all
corresponds to every punctuation character being spoken.

There are 2 ways of setting the punctuation level, depending on whether your
punctuation is controlled by jaws or your synthesiser.

To determine which is the case, do the  following:

1.  hit jaws key (normally the insert key)  + number 6 on the number row to
bring up the configuration manager.

2.  Hit control + shift + d to open the default configuration file.

3.  Hit alt + s to open the set options menu and then hit  t to open the
text processing dialogue.

4.  hit tab twice and you should land on a combo box  which will tell you
whether the default action is to have punctuation controlled by jaws or the
synthesiser.

5.  If it is  controlled by the synthesiser then hit escape to return to the
default configuration file and Hit alt + s again followed by the letter s to
open the synthesiser dialogue.

6.  In here you can set the punctuation level.  Once done, hit ok  and  then
Press control + s to save your settings, followed by alt + f4 to close the
configuration manager.


7.  Note that you can change the punctuation level for specific applications
such as Outlook or Internet explorer by hitting jaws key + number 6 from
within these applications in order to open the application specific
configuration file.  Then  change the punctuation in the synthesiser
dialogue as above and save and close the configuration file.


8.  If the punctuation is controlled by jaws then close the configuration
manager and move to the jaws window.

9.  bring up the options menu  and then move to voices.  Hit right arrow
here  to expand the voices sub menu.  In here you can hit  enter  on global
or individual voice adjustment.  In these dialogues you can set the
punctuation level for jaws.  Note, using the individual voices dialogue
allows you to set different levels of punctuation for the pc cursor voice,
the jaws cursor voice etc.

Finally,  you can customise  in which level of punctuation  a particular
symbol appears.

To do this:

1. Open the default  or application specific configuration file as described
above.

2.  hit alt + s  followed by p to open the customise punctuation dialogue.

3.  You will find yourself in a list of punctuation characters.   For
example,  If you want a quote symbol only to be spoken when punctuation is
set to all then move down the list until you reach quote. Tab once and you
will be in a combo box where you can specify the punctuation level at which
the selected symbol should be spoken.  Select all in this case.

Then tab to ok and hit enter.

Remember to save the configuration file before closing it.

Hope this helps,  Any queries just shoutt.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tony Sweeney
Sent: 24 May 2006 18:33
To: vics
Subject: [vicsireland] Jaws not to speak everypunctuation!


Hi All
I wonder if you could let me know how I can prevent Jaws from speaking every
punctuation mark?I  am a little bewildered, say for example when we might
wish to use the "setmail" for example when going on holiday, I think that it
may be necessary to use brackets before and after vicsireland so we would
need to know about the brackets by Jaws speaking them to us! Now say you are
receiving  instruction by email you may not want jaws speaking quotation
marks  as that would not be necessary for you to use when carrying out the
instructed task! I am indeed very grateful to those who impart I.T
instruction but I do find the use of quotation  marks in instruction and
list answers very offputting
indeed.   So to speak brackets but not quotes?
Trust I haven't totally confused you all at this stage!
All the best
Tony Sweeney.












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