[access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:24:50 -0000
Steve, that's what I'd call fair trading.
that's the crux of everything I've said on this subject.
Few of us are privileged to know exactly what's going on here, but I'm
thinking that the total profit on a deal like this might in fact be
£400-500 if they're buying in at the sort of price US
dealers/distributers buy at.
To judge by the record of pricing for JFW this isn't going to change
one iota! It is very unjust.
Cheers,
From Ray
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-----Original Message-----
Steve Nutt
Sent: 4 February 2008 8:13AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
Hi Barry,
Yes, I completely agree with this philosophy, but regardless, I have
always
tried my best to keep prices on a level playing field with those in
the US.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of
Dj Paddy
Sent: Sunday 3 February 2008 23:48
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
Steve,
What about a price plan that allowd the Power user to opt out of
uneeded
tech support unless the product is faulty?
The power-user could get two free phone calls and have to pay after
that
unless the product is faulty.
Similar to Microsofts home-user telephone support?
Dj Paddy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 3:41 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
> Hi Barry,
>
> Well, to an extent, I agree with George, in that technical support
on
> these
> products has to be taken into consideration. However, the problem
with
> that
> is that those who don't need or want technical support, have to pay
for
> it,
> whether they do want it or not. On the other hand, if people don't
get
> tech
> support for free when they want it, then there is merry hell to pay
on
> that
> side too. So it is a difficult balancing act, but I still believe
that
> things are overpriced in the UK. You only have to compare the price
of
> JAWS
> in the US for example, to JAWS in Europe.
>
> Anyway, I'll say no more on the subject, otherwise I really will be
honest
> <Smile>.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
> Of
> Dj Paddy
> Sent: Sunday 3 February 2008 14:35
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
>
> Steve, and all access tech vendors/retailers.
>
> I realise it's a closely guarded secret but seriously how much is
too much
> with this stuff.
>
> How far can the arm be put in?
>
> Are people getting their arms in as much as we believe?
>
> Sorry to pick on yourself mate but you're a very public figure and
often
> as
> not will be honest if if it's not what people want to hear.
>
> Will the endless debates on email lists ever change this high-way
robbery
> that makes products only available to people who,
>
> A. Con the system at some level.
>
> BE. Get some establishment to pay for a product on their behalf,
which
> often involves some quick talking and quick wittedness on the users
> behalf.
>
> C. Long hard saving, which not that many people seem to do anymore
in our
> credit debt riddled society.
>
> This stuff is specialised and I get that, I think that anyone who's
been
> knocking about with this stuff for a while will admit it will cost
more.
>
> It's rubbish and unfair but there is allot more research and
development,
> (mostly on the software side than hardware), that goes on.
>
> I'd just once like for this stuff to come up and some change to be
> executed
> and something to come out of our debates on mailing lists rather
than just
> he usual, we're being ripped off and those pesky Americans are
getting the
> good deal again.
>
> Much of which I agree with btw.
>
> One suggestion I'd have for change is the same as they have in
Canada.
>
> Did you know you can actually get updated adaptive tech gear every
couple
> of
> years?
>
> We're talking in your home stuff, stuff that you justify that helps
you
> live
> independently.
>
> I don't want to get into the debate of what we have here that we'd
> probably
> not wish to do without to have our tech stuff bought for us because
that's
> more into the VI Gen area.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Dj Paddy
>
>
>
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 11:15 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
>
>
>> Hi Andy,
>>
>> Thanks for the MobileBee link, I hadn't heard of them.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Andy Collins
>> Sent: Sunday 3 February 2008 11:07
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
>>
>> Steve - when I looked on expansys it was £379. It can be got for
>> £330.85 at
>>
>> www.mobilebee.co.uk
>>
>> and that includes VAT. I've found it in the US for Under $500, so
>> cheaper still! -
>>
>> Andy
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 8:09 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
>>
>>
>> | Hi,
>> |
>> | You can certainly find the phone cheaper. I have seen it at 349
>> | pounds
>> at
>> | http://www.expansys.com.
>> |
>> | All the best
>> |
>> | Steve
>> |
>> | -----Original Message-----
>> | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> | Behalf
>> Of
>> | Dean Wilcox
>> | Sent: Saturday 2 February 2008 21:39
>> | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> | Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
>> |
>> | The price does seem high, take this example. You buy the
software
>> | for £1080, the phone for £400 and Talks for £150 it would cost
>> | £1630. The package from Sight And Sound, inc 5 percent VAT would
be
>> | £182.98. Doing
>> it
>> | that way would be a saving of over £180 and who knows, you might
>> | even
>> find
>> | the phone cheaper.
>> |
>> |
>> | At 20:42 02/02/2008, you wrote:
>> | >an interesting presentation and an intention to continue to
develop
>> | >the product for the future.
>> | >Pity that the u k price seems over inflated though!
>> | >
>> | >Cheers
>> | >
>> | >Paul
>> | >
>> | >paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> | >----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt"
>> | ><steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> | >To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> | >Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 5:51 PM
>> | >Subject: [access-uk] More on KNFB reader for phones
>> | >
>> | >
>> | >>Hi folks,
>> | >>
>> | >>Take a look, or should I say a listen, to this file. You can
>> | >>download it
>> | >>from:-
>> | >>
>> | >>http://www.blindbargains.com/redirect.php?redirect=2614
>> | >>
>> | >>All the best
>> | >>
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