[access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
- From: william lomas <will.d.lomas@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:17:38 +0100
I would seriously. I think people need to be aware that the phone is usable
without these apps but then, so is a computer without the use of guide, I
suppose it depends how comfie you feel with the current set up of a phone
On 15 Jul 2012, at 20:15, "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I think you should write your review for the BBC too then Steve, saying how
> you have researched it and you are blind.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:48 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>
>
>> Hi Jackie,
>>
>> Yes, I have seen it twice.
>>
>> Once in March when the apps were under the banner of Safe And Sound, and I
>> was invited to the Georgie launch last week, where I played with the phone
>> for about 10 minutes in London.
>>
>> Yes, it is just a suite of apps, as I said, bit like Guide. It has some odd
>> quirks about it. For example, it supports audio blogging but not Email? It
>> also has no facility to input to the phone other than dialing numbers, other
>> than your voice. So you can't write a text message, since it has no
>> keyboard, you have to speak it. So if you are on a train, or have an attack
>> of laryngitis, or simply don't want to tell the world you are texting your
>> lover, it's a bit tricky <Smile>. It has one or two interesting apps, such
>> as OCR and grabbing data from the Nextbus database, but nothing that would
>> be compelling.
>>
>> And all this on a Galaxy Nexus, one of the best phones in the world. It was
>> a little bit bizarre to see such a nice phone brought to its knees <Smile>.
>>
>> Google's accessibility I would say with the advent of Jellybean, is almost
>> as good as the iPhone. But Georgie basically disables that and puts you
>> into a nice comfortable walled garden.
>>
>> It's not for me, but I'm sure it will be for some, expensive though it is.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Jackie Cairns
>> Sent: 15 July 2012 15:39
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>
>> Hi Steve
>>
>> Then you have obviously seen it? From purely a user perspective, why do you
>> pull it apart?
>>
>> I guess my concern is that it detracts from the work Apple and Android have
>> already done to make accessibility possible. The fact it is also named
>> after a guide dog just has a feel of segregation about it. For so long, we
>> have wanted to be on a level playing field. Now this is possible thanks to
>> Nuance, Apple and Android, along comes a suite of apps that will cost quite
>> a lot more than any apps I've ever seen in certainly the iTunes Store.
>>
>> But I haven't seen it, so am going from what is available to read.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Jackie Cairns
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Steve Nutt
>> Sent: 15 July 2012 10:09
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>
>> Hi Jackie and all,
>>
>> If you want what I consider to be a fair analysis of it, please listen to
>> our podcast at http://www.comproom.co.uk/ourplace.
>>
>> The direct link is http://www.comproom.co.uk/ourplace/op302-14-07-03.mp3.
>>
>> Angie and I pretty much pull it apart. The apps seem good, but the press
>> coverage is misleading.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
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>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Jackie Cairns
>> Sent: 14 July 2012 15:34
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>
>> Hi Eleanor
>>
>> I've just visited the S and S website and read a bit more about it. It
>> seems the specially written application works on a Smartphone, and that
>> there are different bundles one may purchase.
>>
>> As Martin and I are interested in assistive technology generally, we just
>> wondered what was different with this new setup to what is already out
>> there. But, again, if anyone is visiting SV and wishes to report back, that
>> would be helpful certainly. I have friends not subscribed to this list who
>> might benefit from good feedback.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Jackie Cairns
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Eleanor Burke
>> Sent: 14 July 2012 15:24
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>
>> Maybe your friends at Sight & sound, are't they marketing it?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:10 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>
>>
>>> Hi Eleanor
>>>
>>> Ah, yes, the Owasys! I do remember it. I have to say it's easily
>>> forgetable too, a complete rip-off in terms of value for money.
>>>
>>> I was just curious about the new handset though as, no matter how much
>>> voice assistance there is, you are still using a touch-screen from
>>> what the article says, and this is the stumbling block for those with
>>> dexterity problems, and for those who simply don't want to use a
>>> touch-screen. I was really wondering if anyone had come across it so
>>> they could say. If it has a place that bridges the gap for some folk,
>>> then fine, but it just made me wonder why.
>>>
>>> I am sure that if anyone is visiting Sight Village, it will be on
>>> display at least. Perhaps someone could report back?
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Eleanor Burke
>>> Sent: 14 July 2012 14:59
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>
>>> Well Jackie I don't know any more than yourself but do you recall that
>>> dreaded Oasis or something or other from RNIB. I nearly bought it as my
>>> first phone with speech, thank Heavens I didn't. Maybe someone has
>>> decided
>>> that blind people again need something basic. I have to say I love the
>>> Symbian Nokia phones.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 2:52 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>
>>>
>>>> Forgive me, but having read the article via the link Tom posted, is
>>>> this not reinventing the wheel, or have I missed something? Why have
>>>> a Smartphone touch-screen mobile for blind and visually impaired
>>>> people with specific apps when you can already access either Apple or
>>>> Android handsets?
>>>> Hoping
>>>> someone might clarify the point of having such a phone in addition to
>>>> what is already out there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Jackie Cairns
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf Of Tom Lorimer
>>>> Sent: 14 July 2012 11:43
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>
>>>> Try this link:
>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18818279
>>>>
>>>> Tom.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: jeff flint <mailto:jeffflint15@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:54 AM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>>>
>>>> My brother in Australia heard a report from England that a new mobile
>>>> phone, with lots of bells an whistles, was launched last Thursday in
>>>> London.
>>>> Does anybody know anything about it?
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
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