[access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

  • From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:12:35 +0000

Sight and sound obviously think it will as they are selling it and the company 
is a very successful one. 
-----Original message-----
From: Jackie Cairns
Sent:  16/07/2012, 9:07  am
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People


Hi Steve

Thanks for clarifying.  I am still puzzled, but no matter, perhaps it will
prove popular and have a place in the market share.  I've never seen
Android, so I was curious.


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steve Nutt
Sent: 15 July 2012 17:49
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

Hi Jackie,

Yes, I have seen it twice.

Once in March when the apps were under the banner of Safe And Sound, and I
was invited to the Georgie launch last week, where I played with the phone
for about 10 minutes in London.

Yes, it is just a suite of apps, as I said, bit like Guide.  It has some odd
quirks about it.  For example, it supports audio blogging but not Email?  It
also has no facility to input to the phone other than dialing numbers, other
than your voice.  So you can't write a text message, since it has no
keyboard, you have to speak it.  So if you are on a train, or have an attack
of laryngitis, or simply don't want to tell the world you are texting your
lover, it's a bit tricky <Smile>.  It has one or two interesting apps, such
as OCR and grabbing data from the Nextbus database, but nothing that would
be compelling.

And all this on a Galaxy Nexus, one of the best phones in the world.  It was
a little bit bizarre to see such a nice phone brought to its knees <Smile>.

Google's accessibility I would say with the advent of Jellybean, is almost
as good as the iPhone.  But Georgie basically disables that and puts you
into a nice comfortable walled garden.

It's not for me, but I'm sure it will be for some, expensive though it is.

All the best

Steve
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jackie Cairns
Sent: 15 July 2012 15:39
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

Hi Steve

Then you have obviously seen it?  From purely a user perspective, why do you
pull it apart?

I guess my concern is that it detracts from the work Apple and Android have
already done to make accessibility possible.  The fact it is also named
after a guide dog just has a feel of segregation about it.  For so long, we
have wanted to be on a level playing field.  Now this is possible thanks to
Nuance, Apple and Android, along comes a suite of apps that will cost quite
a lot more than any apps I've ever seen in certainly the iTunes Store.

But I haven't seen it, so am going from what is available to read.

Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steve Nutt
Sent: 15 July 2012 10:09
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

Hi Jackie and all,

If you want what I consider to be a fair analysis of it, please listen to
our podcast at http://www.comproom.co.uk/ourplace.

The direct link is http://www.comproom.co.uk/ourplace/op302-14-07-03.mp3.

Angie and I pretty much pull it apart.  The apps seem good, but the press
coverage is misleading.

All the best

Steve
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77 Exeter Close
Stevenage
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SG1 4PW
Tel:  01438-742286
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Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jackie Cairns
Sent: 14 July 2012 15:34
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

Hi Eleanor

I've just visited the S and S website and read a bit more about it.  It
seems the specially written application works on a Smartphone, and that
there are different bundles one may purchase.

As Martin and I are interested in assistive technology generally, we just
wondered what was different with this new setup to what is already out
there.  But, again, if anyone is visiting SV and wishes to report back, that
would be helpful certainly.  I have friends not subscribed to this list who
might benefit from good feedback.


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Eleanor Burke
Sent: 14 July 2012 15:24
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

Maybe your friends at Sight & sound, are't they marketing it?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:10 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People


> Hi Eleanor
>
> Ah, yes, the Owasys! I do remember it.  I have to say it's easily 
> forgetable too, a complete rip-off in terms of value for money.
>
> I was just curious about the new handset though as, no matter how much 
> voice assistance there is, you are still  using a touch-screen from 
> what the article says, and this is the stumbling block for those with 
> dexterity problems, and for those who simply don't want to use a 
> touch-screen.  I was really wondering if anyone had come across it so 
> they could say.  If it has a place that bridges the gap for some folk, 
> then fine, but it just made me wonder why.
>
> I am sure that if anyone is visiting Sight Village, it will be on 
> display at least.  Perhaps someone could report back?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Jackie Cairns
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
> Sent: 14 July 2012 14:59
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>
> Well Jackie I don't know any more than yourself but do you recall that 
> dreaded Oasis or something or other from RNIB.  I nearly bought it as 
> my first phone with speech, thank Heavens I didn't.  Maybe someone has 
> decided that blind people again need something basic.  I have to say I 
> love the Symbian Nokia phones.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 2:52 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>
>
>> Forgive me, but having read the article via the link Tom posted, is 
>> this not reinventing the wheel, or have I missed something?  Why have 
>> a Smartphone touch-screen mobile for blind and visually impaired 
>> people with specific apps when  you can already access either Apple 
>> or Android handsets?
>> Hoping
>> someone might clarify the point of having such a phone in addition to 
>> what is already out there.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Jackie Cairns
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>> Behalf Of Tom Lorimer
>> Sent: 14 July 2012 11:43
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>
>> Hi Jeff,
>>
>> Try this link:
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18818279
>>
>> Tom.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: jeff flint <mailto:jeffflint15@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:54 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] New Accessible Phone for Blind People
>>
>> My brother in Australia heard a report from England that a new mobile 
>> phone, with lots of bells an whistles, was launched last Thursday in 
>> London.
>> Does anybody know anything about it?
>> Jeff
>>
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